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Old 10-03-2014, 03:54 PM
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haven't had the time yet, but it is the next thing on the list.
Old 10-04-2014, 01:24 PM
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maybe someone knows.

I installed a cheap cam sensor to test whether that was the fault for the misfires, the sensor died today (yeah 3 days after installation) but the car finally recognises that it is dead,

I have following error: 112 Hall effect sensor

by googling it, it is clear that it is the cam sensor, since I want to buy a quality item I have a question, which is the correct part number

by online ETK, it is 996 606 106 02, however there is another part number which is also for 996, it is 996 606 106 03

which would be the one to choose?

maybe the last one is some upgraded sensor?

http://www.uspmotorsports.com/Camsha...rsche-996.html
Old 10-04-2014, 05:49 PM
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The one ending with 02 is for '02 and older models. The 03 one is for '03 and newer.

Part #34 here http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-p...section=103-01
Old 10-04-2014, 08:29 PM
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much appreciated, thank you
Old 10-04-2014, 08:48 PM
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damn, found out that there is a third one as well: 996 606 106 01, by the codes they should be identical, also with mercedes sensors price range 70~220$ with different manufacturers
Old 10-04-2014, 09:01 PM
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Add a third radiator, clean the sides, and check the fans. Maybe your thermostat is not working well? Make sure the tank doesn't have a pinhole.
Old 10-04-2014, 09:13 PM
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tank is new, third radiator is in place,

the fans must be checked and radiators cleaned, but since the cam sensor is dead, that will be the first to replace
Old 10-04-2014, 09:18 PM
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also took a few shots of it, before the sensor died, also no problems with cooling up to that point as well






simply adore this car, even with all it's yet unsorted issues
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Originally Posted by riddler777
damn, found out that there is a third one as well: 996 606 106 01, by the codes they should be identical, also with mercedes sensors price range 70~220$ with different manufacturers
01 is superseded by 02. You can get the Bosch for $120

http://www.autoatlanta.com/results.p...r2=99660610602
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Cooling issues are unfortunately fairly common and are usually not too difficult to fix.
Search for "radiator fan", "fan resistor", "overheating", etc.
The radiators fans, and their resistors and relays often go bad. There are ways to check proper operation detailed in those threads.
Overheating while stopped or in slow traffic is typical of a non-functioning fan.

Oh, and good job with the engine rebuild. Very sharp looking car.

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Old 10-07-2014, 04:14 PM
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well the car is giving quite a headache all these days, maybe someone could chime in with things to check

the cam sensor died on Right bank (cylinders 4;5;6) I bought a new one thinking that it must have been the cheap chinese sensor at fault

but the new one didn't even get the car going for couple of hours like the previous did

the errors are that the misfires are damaging cat converter and 3 errors about misfiring in cyl 4;5;6; the car backfires and definetely the mixture/ spark timing is totally wrong. but I can't diagnose where is the problem, the other 3 cylinders are working perfectly, pulled apart the DME it looks perfect without any visible burns or corrosion.

while assembling the engine outside the car, I inspected the engine wiring harness and it seemed to be in very good shape, no bent or cracked insulation was visible as well.

one more thing while the first cheap sensor was on the car the diagnostics also gave out a code about Hall effect sensor. (but the car worked, the code also displayed when it stopped, but now it is gone)


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Old 10-07-2014, 04:50 PM
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update, managed to go through all the wires (using multimeter beep method), from ECU to the sensor connectors, they all are intact.
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To start, you can give us the error codes. Do you have Durametric to check cam deviations? Any possibility of damage to the reluctor ring (for the cam sensor) on the bank 2 cam?
Old 10-07-2014, 06:10 PM
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well I don't have the durametric, i have launch x431, but the weird thing is it doesn't want to read the live data, with only ignition it works perfectly, no such problems with beemers

codes were:

P0300
Misfire Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0304
Misfire, Cylinder 4, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0305
Misfire, Cylinder 5, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0306
Misfire, Cylinder 6, Damaging to Catalytic Converter

occasionally these as well

P1316
Misfire, Cylinder 4, Emission Relevant
P1317
Misfire, Cylinder 5, Emission Relevant
P1318
Misfire, Cylinder 6, Emission Relevant
P1319
Misfire, Emission Relevant
P1585
Misfire with Empty Fuel Tank

only in launch software the codes themselves show as 65 66 etc, but description is the same.
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well the damage to reluctor is very unlikely cause the car worked for the days, (driving, cold starts, warm starts etc)

then it all was gone, by now I am thinking of buying the most expensive cam sensor precisely corresponding to the part nr and made by bosch

the first one was some automega, the cheapest but at least the car worked and started normally right after installation

the second one after the cheap one died was Facet/EPS, car never worked normally

checking the original sensor with the Facet/EPS one using multimeter, the resistance on both was the same. (apparently maybe a defective sensor? )

the situation is kinda weird, I am not against buying the best (yeah ok wanted to save a few bucks, but usually new parts work, for at least a while...) but in this situation I am not entirely sure the cam sensor is the one to blame, it looks as though it might be.


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