Vote 2003 C4S vs 2004 40th Anniversary
#31
What does the LSD do for the handling? I mean, I know it enables stronger acceleration out of tight turns; suppose it enables longer, better controlled drifts; and have heard it makes heavy braking more stable (presumably with PASM off). But what about at less than 10/10ths? I'm hoping it might make the the rear more throttle steerable or perhaps even make the front end pointier. Does it? And/or any other handling impact at less than 10/10ths?
#32
Burning Brakes
LSD is most effective with cornering and traction control. When the inside wheel starts spinning because of the weight transfer leading to less grip, your Porsche loses the ability to put power down on the road with the outside wheel. This isn't good, especially if you're trying to put in a good time on the track or aggressive street driving.
IMHO LSD is not as much a factor in street driving compared to AWD which in the 996 is AWD on all the time even in low speed cornering and traction events.
IMHO LSD is not as much a factor in street driving compared to AWD which in the 996 is AWD on all the time even in low speed cornering and traction events.
Last edited by Seeeu911; 07-06-2014 at 09:30 AM.
#34
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LSD is most effective with cornering and traction control. When the inside wheel starts spinning because of the weight transfer leading to less grip, your Porsche loses the ability to put power down on the road with the outside wheel. This isn't good, especially if you're trying to put in a good time on the track or aggressive street driving.
IMHO LSD is not as much a factor in street driving compared to AWD which in the 996 is AWD on all the time even in low speed cornering and traction events.
IMHO LSD is not as much a factor in street driving compared to AWD which in the 996 is AWD on all the time even in low speed cornering and traction events.
#35
Burning Brakes
But because the 40th has PSM, the engine will cut power to stop the wheel spin anyhow. And how many people track a 40th Anniv. 996 as any potential extra value the car has over a regular 996 would be shot, so I'd imagine it seldom happens! Again, I don't see the LSD as a performance enhancer to affect the OP's decision between the C4S and 40th Anniv. 996.
I've never seen a pic of a 40th yet on track. I hope someone defies the norm there and does.
That why the AWD also with PSM is faster. ( I just love saying that )
Last edited by Seeeu911; 07-06-2014 at 01:13 PM.
#36
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#38
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Still more...
1. Nr. 1187
2. Nr. 1240
3. U294
4. U442
5. U766
(note - "U" cars do not have known limited edition numbers - the "U" number refers to where the car is listed in the 40AE registry)
2. Nr. 1240
3. U294
4. U442
5. U766
(note - "U" cars do not have known limited edition numbers - the "U" number refers to where the car is listed in the 40AE registry)
#40
#41
To be honest my 40th has been great value, super reliable, minimal mantenance required and I would say that in the past 3 yrs of ownership the value is flat to slightly increased.
The only downside is that once you get a 996, you spend a fortune modding it. You dont have to as the car is great as it comes, but one you start you just cant stop!!
The only downside is that once you get a 996, you spend a fortune modding it. You dont have to as the car is great as it comes, but one you start you just cant stop!!
#42
Drive both and see what you like best.
BTW, my avatar picture is on track @ Barber's.
BTW, my avatar picture is on track @ Barber's.
Last edited by ALE; 07-07-2014 at 02:22 PM. Reason: adding text
#43
But because the 40th has PSM, the engine will cut power to stop the wheel spin anyhow. And how many people track a 40th Anniv. 996 as any potential extra value the car has over a regular 996 would be shot, so I'd imagine it seldom happens! Again, I don't see the LSD as a performance enhancer to affect the OP's decision between the C4S and 40th Anniv. 996.
And it won't cut power if you turn PSM off :-)
EDIT: I've done some more LSD reading, and I don't want to be spreading misinformation. While there are lots of sources saying the OEM LSD has a 22% ratio, lots of others say 40%, which I'm beginning to think is correct. And is it true as I originally wrote that lots of LSDs don't work with PSM? Well, maybe many are useless with PSM on, don't know, but it sounds like many do make a difference with PSM off.
Last edited by rs10; 12-30-2014 at 08:12 PM.
#44
Of course, the third difference could address the slow turn in and inert rear that some complain about with regular, 2wd 996.2s. But if so, then surely everyone would modify their suspension, and no one on the forum would talk about the C4S's handling advantages ... ?
Or am I wrong - does a "C2S" keep most of the C4S's handling advantages? And can modifying a regular 996.2's suspension make it handle like a C4S? (Or a 996.1, for that matter?)
#45
Three Wheelin'
To be honest my 40th has been great value, super reliable, minimal mantenance required and I would say that in the past 3 yrs of ownership the value is flat to slightly increased.
The only downside is that once you get a 996, you spend a fortune modding it. You dont have to as the car is great as it comes, but one you start you just cant stop!!
The only downside is that once you get a 996, you spend a fortune modding it. You dont have to as the car is great as it comes, but one you start you just cant stop!!