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IMS bearing failure for your 996, Y or N? tell us (yr, 996 Mk1 or MK2 failure mode)

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Old 05-29-2017, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gnat
Once you pull the transmission you can see the flange. If it is a factory flange you will see one of 3 things:

1) A shallow "bowl" indicates a factory dual row.

2) A deep "bowl" with a small nut indicates the original single row that can be replaced with the motor still in the car.

3) A deep "bowl" with a large nut indicates the upgraded single row (in a 996 it means it got a replacement motor after the 997s were out) that can not be replaced without tearing down the motor.

Left is a single row flange and right is a dual:


When you start talking about the aftermarket replacements, I don't know how much you can tell from the flange.
Can anyone verify this? My car has a replacement engine from Porsche. The PO took it to have a new bearing installed but they said at the dealer (after taking the trans off) that it had the updated bearing. I'm not worried about failure, I'm just curious.
Old 05-29-2017, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by iammclovin804
Can anyone verify this? My car has a replacement engine from Porsche. The PO took it to have a new bearing installed but they said at the dealer (after taking the trans off) that it had the updated bearing. I'm not worried about failure, I'm just curious.
Only by seeing the flange. And if it was not a complete engine replacement, where you would get the larger 2006-2008 bearing, it is very likely to be a new single row
Old 05-29-2017, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Thanks. I also googled it a bit. Looks like it's a clone of the factory tool. I was hoping it's much cheaper but I think it's still like $400-500.
Yes it's a very high quality copy of the factory RMS tool and $500. I'm willing to rent to help recoupe my cost on it - PM me. Also have all the LN IMS tools including the faultless. They all worked great and I have several thousand miles on my 986 fix.
Old 05-29-2017, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cbracerx
Only by seeing the flange. And if it was not a complete engine replacement, where you would get the larger 2006-2008 bearing, it is very likely to be a new single row
It's a complete replacement. Engine number matches a factory rebuilt engine (04AT66Y66392).
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Originally Posted by iammclovin804
It's a complete replacement. Engine number matches a factory rebuilt engine (04AT66Y66392).
What year was it installed? You still cannot tell for certain unless you see it with your own (or your mechanic's) eyes. Did they take a picture at the dealer? Since they did not offer to replace it, it is likely you have the 2006-2008 bearing. Sadly, this still fails.
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Originally Posted by cbracerx
What year was it installed? You still cannot tell for certain unless you see it with your own (or your mechanic's) eyes. Did they take a picture at the dealer? Since they did not offer to replace it, it is likely you have the 2006-2008 bearing. Sadly, this still fails.
Unfortunately I don't know when it was installed or at what mileage. The PO didn't even know it had a replacement engine so I found that out myself. I'm not worried about it failing, I really was just curious. I'll just check it when it's time to do the clutch.
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2001 Carrera 4 Cabrio with 105k miles. Had RMS leak, decided to have LN Engineering IMS installed as well as a new clutch since my mechanic was already in there (among other things). Original bearing was still fine at 105k.
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2000 Carrera. 54K miles. Nothing yet.
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2004 40th Anniversary, X51 Engine, 70K Miles, running great.
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I've been waiting for this to hit 90% with no IMS problems. I just hit 98,000 on mine and I'm going to drive it until something does happen...
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Originally Posted by Ryan Pinkston
I've been waiting for this to hit 90% with no IMS problems. I just hit 98,000 on mine and I'm going to drive it until something does happen...
All good if you can afford to do that...I can't!
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Quite the opposite. I could barely afford to change the oil last time I did it. A 911 is something I probably shouldn't own, but the kids and I are having a blast. I have a cheaper car that I can drive if death were to strike.
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Originally Posted by Ryan Pinkston
I've been waiting for this to hit 90% with no IMS problems. I just hit 98,000 on mine and I'm going to drive it until something does happen...
Well, one reason (I think) the percentage reported failing is dropping is because people fix their IMS before they fail. I have been watching the 997 forum and there the percentage is creeping up, now above 6%. Which is an amazing high number given the fact that 997.2 have a different engine with no IMS and the S and later Mk.1 all have the bigger bearing which should have a similar failure rate as the double bearing....
I know the percentage has nothing scientific behind it but it is an indication with both polls over 1000.

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2004 C4S with 90000 kms & no issues.
Old 07-15-2017, 01:01 PM
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2003 C2 with 90k miles, original bearing. No issues.
Currently rebuilding trans so considering upgrade bearing.


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