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Old 09-30-2018, 09:41 AM
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Updating this old thread...did anyone ever get the answer here?

Appears that:

White Dot = 3.0mm spacer
Green Dot = 6.5mm spacer
Blue Dot = ?????

I am about to tackle this project on my Dad's 2003 C2, trying to figure out which to use.
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:51 PM
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I didn't use any spacers with my ROW 030. Got the kit from Gert. Suspension worked great. I would say it lowered close to 1/2" f & maybe a little more in back. Unfortunately, I never took measurements. Sorry, doesn't add much, just my experience.
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I found this thread with some answers, assuming they are true - https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...0-springs.html

Per this thread in 2002 Porsche changed the color code on the M030 springs to the following:

Green changed to Blue - so both Green and Blue call for a 6.5mm spacer (compensation plate)
White changed to Orange - so both White and Orange call for a 3.0mm spacer (compensation plate)

Part numbers stayed the same for the springs.

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I just checked the springs that are in my ROW M030 kit (purchased 8/16 by the PO) that i plan to install this fall. Front springs have an orange dot at the top and two dots, a light yellow-green and a dark green, at the bottom. The rears have an orange dot at the top and two dots at the bottom, a dark green and a red.

This looks like the colors changed after "The Essential Companion" was published (pg 643) as these colors don't match the book. But do match Nichshu's post above. And I would use the 3.0mm compensation plate.

Am I to assume the compensation plates are to be used if you don't want the car to be any lower that stock? To compensate for the shorter springs? I would think if they were required they would be included in the kit?
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Old 10-14-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by az968gpw View Post
I just checked the springs that are in my ROW M030 kit (purchased 8/16 by the PO) that i plan to install this fall. Front springs have an orange dot at the top and two dots, a light yellow-green and a dark green, at the bottom. The rears have an orange dot at the top and two dots at the bottom, a dark green and a red.

This looks like the colors changed after "The Essential Companion" was published (pg 643) as these colors don't match the book. But do match Nichshu's post above. And I would use the 3.0mm compensation plate.

Am I to assume the compensation plates are to be used if you don't want the car to be any lower that stock? To compensate for the shorter springs? I would think if they were required they would be included in the kit?
The M030 kit only includes the shocks and springs. Unfortunately it does not include any of the shock mount parts, including the compensation plates. Not sure why.

The dot that matters for the compensation plate selection is the single dot on the top of the spring. Not sure what the two dots on the lower coil mean.

The 996.2 M030 kit that I ordered will be here this week. Once I get it out of the box I will report back on the colors.
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Old 10-14-2018, 06:01 PM
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Does anyone know what the rear color codes are? The choices for the rear spring "compensating plate" are 0.5mm and 4.0mm.
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Does anyone know what the rear color codes are? The choices for the rear spring "compensating plate" are 0.5mm and 4.0mm.
Nevermind...found this over on Renntech - https://www.renntech.org/forums/topi...0-pn-for-my02/ which says for the REAR it's - White = 0.5 mm compensation plate or Green = 4 mm compensation plate.

Soooo...assuming the color change is the same on the REAR springs that would mean:

Green changed to Blue - Use 4mm compensating plate
White changed to Orange - Use 0.5mm compensating plate
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Is your car a coupe or cab, the kits are different. So the compensation plates are required? I'll have to order those I guess.
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Originally Posted by az968gpw View Post
Is your car a coupe or cab, the kits are different. So the compensation plates are required? I'll have to order those I guess.
Yes the springs and shocks are different coupe vs cab and C2 vs C4. According to the parts manual the compensation plates were used on the stock suspension as well as the M030. The question is when you disassemble your stock shocks to move the top parts over to the M030 whether you have the right plates or you need to order different thickness. The top parts are not included in the M030 kit.
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I'm checking with my local dealer about other parts they recommend replacing while doing the M030. Some fasteners appear to be single use type. Also the bellows didn't come with the kit, and some other bits might be good to replace while in there.
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Originally Posted by az968gpw View Post
I'm checking with my local dealer about other parts they recommend replacing while doing the M030.
I did the RoW M030 suspension earlier in the year. I bought new dust boots/bellows, bump stops, compensator plates and strut mounts. My car had less than 40k when I did the install but it still seemed silly to try and reuse any of the old parts.


Here is some info that helped me out when I was trying to figure everything out.




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Those are the type of parts I'm thinking should be replaced too. Maybe some of the fasteners (nuts) just cause some shouldn't be reused, and they are inexpensive. I didn't think about the mounts but probably makes sense. My car has 50k miles and I don't expect to change shocks again for 50k more miles, or so. So probably never for me.

Did you reuse the upper mounting bearings on the front shocks or replaced?

Thanks for the chart, that's from the Essentials book, right? Some of the individual part numbers on the parts in the kit don't match my older version of PET so I'm double checking those too.
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Originally Posted by az968gpw View Post
Did you reuse the upper mounting bearings on the front shocks or replaced?

Thanks for the chart, that's from the Essentials book, right?
The strut mounts I bought came with the bearings so basically, any part that wasn't included in the M030 kit, I replaced with new. And yes, the charts are from the Essentials book.
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So I received the M030 kit today from Suncoast. Interesting findings....

The front springs have white paint.

The rear springs have yellow paint.

Two Rear compensation plates were included with the kit in a P/N I don't see in my parts catalog 996 333 511 08.
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Here are the part numbers that came with me M030 kit. It appears Porsche has changed the P/Ns as I don't see these numbers listed anywhere.

Front springs 996 343 531 24 504 (White upper paint swipe)
Rear springs 996 333 531 71 504 (Yellow upper paint swipe)

Front struts 996 343 041 37
Rear struts 996 333 051 49

Front sway bar 996 333 701 26
Rear sway bar 996 343 701 21

Rear compensation plates (blue in color, included with kit) 996 333 511 08

It looks like the last 2 numbers in each P/N are a much higher number than all other listings I have found. Assuming superseded supplier or something.
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