first oil change
08-02-2011, 02:02 PM
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Is the OEM drain plug made out of ferrous material? I.e. steel? If so you may be able to simply put a small button style high strength rare-earth neo magnet 5/16" dia or so in size at the end of the threaded stud of the plug and put it back in.
I've done this for other cars both for the oil drain plug as well as transmission fluid drain plug without any issues for 3 years now, there is always some very fine ferrous material at the enjd of the plug when it is removed for fluid change.
I've done this for other cars both for the oil drain plug as well as transmission fluid drain plug without any issues for 3 years now, there is always some very fine ferrous material at the enjd of the plug when it is removed for fluid change.
08-02-2011, 11:21 PM
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hi ivangene - cant help but notice your name! nickname for me is vange. i appreciate your replies as you offer encouragement which is important. i have worked on my cars for a few decades i hate to admit, but am no pro. i try real hard though, and with time can work thru many situations. my carrera (first porsche) is new to me and i have not had to perform many repairs. so i need all the help i can get. i did purchase a (and in no way affiliated) a xxxxmetric diagnostic tool which has been infinitly useful.
as far as spin on filter adapter - i guess my experience with plastic factory parts (porsche, bmw) has been positive. you must use a torque wrench of course... factory filters a fresh gasket and a new plug washers have no problem.
i did cut off the paper section from the plastic to look for debris. silly, fun thing to do i guess. you cant do it easily with filter adaptor. nothing thick or shiny. i think all good. side note - a magnetic drain plug holds magnetic material. which parts of the engine are magnetic that would wear and deposit particles on the drain plug? just wondering..
as far as spin on filter adapter - i guess my experience with plastic factory parts (porsche, bmw) has been positive. you must use a torque wrench of course... factory filters a fresh gasket and a new plug washers have no problem.
i did cut off the paper section from the plastic to look for debris. silly, fun thing to do i guess. you cant do it easily with filter adaptor. nothing thick or shiny. i think all good. side note - a magnetic drain plug holds magnetic material. which parts of the engine are magnetic that would wear and deposit particles on the drain plug? just wondering..
08-03-2011, 10:41 PM
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Ok now my question is...Is the filter element style really inferior compared to the conventional spin-on filter? I read LN Engineering's introduction to their product but wanted to know what everyone here thought.
To the OP - congrats! Once you do more work on this car you'll wonder why or how Porsche mechanics can get away with some of the prices they charge.
To the OP - congrats! Once you do more work on this car you'll wonder why or how Porsche mechanics can get away with some of the prices they charge.
Early on I bought a spare filter housing and when I change the oil I remove the filter housing and set it aside the clean up the other one, put on a new o-ring, install a new filter element, fill the housing up with clean oil and take a clean rubber gloved finger and smear some clean oil on the o-ring and threads then install the housing. Takes longer to type it in than it takes to do it.
Neither housing has suffered any degradation as far as I can tell. 'course I don't throw them around or drop them or overtighten them either.
Sincerely,
Macster.
08-04-2011, 01:49 AM
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My suggestion is to get a drain plug magnet from Dimple. Here's the entire thread on the magnetic drain plug issue.
LN Engineering only has one style of drain plug. Dimple has dozens and dozens. Plus, when you buy a drain plug magnet, they send you a thread pitch gauge on top of it. Just give them a call and talk to them about what you need. Richard will be happy to have you bend his ear.
larry
LN Engineering only has one style of drain plug. Dimple has dozens and dozens. Plus, when you buy a drain plug magnet, they send you a thread pitch gauge on top of it. Just give them a call and talk to them about what you need. Richard will be happy to have you bend his ear.
larry
01-04-2013, 01:47 PM
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I know this is an old thread...and I didnt want to start a new one:
I just read this and laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes.....I hope you guys will find it humorous - which is why I brought it to you - a smile for Friday
Enjoy:
While not specific to Porsches it still applies and it is how I do an oil change on my BMW bike...
First go for a ride to warm up the oil.
After burning myself a couple of times either on the exhaust or on the hot engine, I go inside and have a beer while things cool off a bit. Piece of advice: Don't forget to wipe feet on the "welcome" mat so the missus won't ream you a new one for dragging garage-born hazardous material inside the house.
After a couple of brewskis is it time to go back out and tackle the afore-mentioned oil change. A few minutes into trying to get my sausage-like fingers to fit under the greasy center stand I realize that I forgot to put down a mat to save my knees and I tear a hole in my new jeans. (Note to self: change into old pants before ANY maintenance).
Back on the ground again, but with a floor mat this time, I manage to unscrew the drain plug... just a tad too much and the still hot black tar is now pouring all over my hand, making its way to the inside of my sleeve. My reaction caused me to bang my head on the foot peg as I tried to move away from the hot lava. Ouch! Paper towels to the rescue
Not discouraged, I move the drain pan under the engine almost in time to collect a sizable amount of oil. Time to remove the filter plate... and to realize that there is still quite a bit of liquid dinosaur left as I instantly let half of it escape onto the garage floor. No worries, that's what paper towels are for, right?
Once the plate is out I have to call Larry who borrowed the filter wrench 6 months ago... He says he is on his way. So time for a pee break an another brew! Dang, forgot again to wipe my dirty paws on the mat and the wife gives me the evil eye.
Larry shows up with the wrench. The tech session is now back in full swing. The filter is removed without too much of a commotion but one of the cover screws fell in the drain pan. To retrieve it I guess I should have used the hand with the sleeve already soiled during the drain plug removal...Oh well, I remind myself that I am saving money by not going to the dealer. Right?
New filter in, a bit of clean oil on the new o-ring and the cover goes back on. The drain plug is also back on.
Did someone mention that it is a good idea to remove the filler cap before draining the oil? The darn thing is so tight that Larry and I can't get it loose! Good grief! The engine is empty of oil and we cannot refill it! Gasp!
Time for a brewski break, except that the wife locked us out. Something about tracks in the kitchen and living room???
Working together we grabbed 2 pairs of pliers and managed to get the oil filler cap off, ripping a portion of the plastic off. It'll look ugly until I get a new one, but Hey, I am saving money by doing the work myself. I break out the funny looking funnel with the flexible hose, tie it up to the side of the bike and proceed with opening the first can of fresh oil.
The process is veeeeryyyy sloooow, and after a while it is time for the 2nd can of oil. It would have been fine except that Larry walked to close to the bike and knocked the funnel off and we now have fresh oil joining the black oil on the garage floor. Good thing I bought Mobil 1 and not the expensive BMW oil from the dealership (what a rip-off!).
In the end we used almost 5 quarts of Mobil 1 ('cause of the spill). Once the filler cap is back on we clean up the mess under the bike (that's what paper towels are for!).
The bike fires up without too much of an argument and we let it warm up, checking for leaks. So far... so good!
All in all it took less than 4 hours, 5 quarts of oil (thanks to Larry), a new filter and o-ring, a filler cap, 3 rolls of paper towels (real life savers), 5 beers, a new "Welcome" mat, a new pair of jeans and a new shirt! Not bad for a Saturday morning!
Now I can enjoy the rest of the day and the money saved from the greedy dealer!
The wife said something about me taking a long ride and no need to hurry back! She's a keeper!
That's how I change my oil. You?
I just read this and laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes.....I hope you guys will find it humorous - which is why I brought it to you - a smile for Friday
Enjoy:
While not specific to Porsches it still applies and it is how I do an oil change on my BMW bike...
First go for a ride to warm up the oil.
After burning myself a couple of times either on the exhaust or on the hot engine, I go inside and have a beer while things cool off a bit. Piece of advice: Don't forget to wipe feet on the "welcome" mat so the missus won't ream you a new one for dragging garage-born hazardous material inside the house.
After a couple of brewskis is it time to go back out and tackle the afore-mentioned oil change. A few minutes into trying to get my sausage-like fingers to fit under the greasy center stand I realize that I forgot to put down a mat to save my knees and I tear a hole in my new jeans. (Note to self: change into old pants before ANY maintenance).
Back on the ground again, but with a floor mat this time, I manage to unscrew the drain plug... just a tad too much and the still hot black tar is now pouring all over my hand, making its way to the inside of my sleeve. My reaction caused me to bang my head on the foot peg as I tried to move away from the hot lava. Ouch! Paper towels to the rescue
Not discouraged, I move the drain pan under the engine almost in time to collect a sizable amount of oil. Time to remove the filter plate... and to realize that there is still quite a bit of liquid dinosaur left as I instantly let half of it escape onto the garage floor. No worries, that's what paper towels are for, right?
Once the plate is out I have to call Larry who borrowed the filter wrench 6 months ago... He says he is on his way. So time for a pee break an another brew! Dang, forgot again to wipe my dirty paws on the mat and the wife gives me the evil eye.
Larry shows up with the wrench. The tech session is now back in full swing. The filter is removed without too much of a commotion but one of the cover screws fell in the drain pan. To retrieve it I guess I should have used the hand with the sleeve already soiled during the drain plug removal...Oh well, I remind myself that I am saving money by not going to the dealer. Right?
New filter in, a bit of clean oil on the new o-ring and the cover goes back on. The drain plug is also back on.
Did someone mention that it is a good idea to remove the filler cap before draining the oil? The darn thing is so tight that Larry and I can't get it loose! Good grief! The engine is empty of oil and we cannot refill it! Gasp!
Time for a brewski break, except that the wife locked us out. Something about tracks in the kitchen and living room???
Working together we grabbed 2 pairs of pliers and managed to get the oil filler cap off, ripping a portion of the plastic off. It'll look ugly until I get a new one, but Hey, I am saving money by doing the work myself. I break out the funny looking funnel with the flexible hose, tie it up to the side of the bike and proceed with opening the first can of fresh oil.
The process is veeeeryyyy sloooow, and after a while it is time for the 2nd can of oil. It would have been fine except that Larry walked to close to the bike and knocked the funnel off and we now have fresh oil joining the black oil on the garage floor. Good thing I bought Mobil 1 and not the expensive BMW oil from the dealership (what a rip-off!).
In the end we used almost 5 quarts of Mobil 1 ('cause of the spill). Once the filler cap is back on we clean up the mess under the bike (that's what paper towels are for!).
The bike fires up without too much of an argument and we let it warm up, checking for leaks. So far... so good!
All in all it took less than 4 hours, 5 quarts of oil (thanks to Larry), a new filter and o-ring, a filler cap, 3 rolls of paper towels (real life savers), 5 beers, a new "Welcome" mat, a new pair of jeans and a new shirt! Not bad for a Saturday morning!
Now I can enjoy the rest of the day and the money saved from the greedy dealer!
The wife said something about me taking a long ride and no need to hurry back! She's a keeper!
That's how I change my oil. You?
01-04-2013, 02:30 PM
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Yes, well, that's exactly how I change the oil in my Porsche, including the burned fingers, the ripped jeans, the banged head, the oil on the floor and up my sleeve, to say nothing of using part of an extra quart of oil because it pours in so slowly that I forget that I have too wide a mouth on my funnel - DAYYMN. And I would have gotten it done sooner if I hadn't had to bring that oil filter wrench back to Bill.
But, that's what friends are for. Ivangene, thanks for sharing.
Larry
But, that's what friends are for. Ivangene, thanks for sharing.
Larry
01-11-2013, 02:35 PM
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Getting ready to do an oil change on my newly acquired 996. I'd like to get a cap wrench to get the oil filter housing on and off. Can anyone tell me which size and flute count to get? I tried to search for it but no joy.
I have no idea what oil was in it before but going with Motul 8100 X-Cess 5W-40. Also looking for info on getting oil analysis done. Anyone have a link? Sounds like good preventative step considering the possible bad consequences of not catching something bad early.
Oil & filter change, new plugs, boots, air filters, and beer. Should be a good Saturday.
I have no idea what oil was in it before but going with Motul 8100 X-Cess 5W-40. Also looking for info on getting oil analysis done. Anyone have a link? Sounds like good preventative step considering the possible bad consequences of not catching something bad early.
Oil & filter change, new plugs, boots, air filters, and beer. Should be a good Saturday.
01-11-2013, 08:07 PM
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To chime in, I changed my oil on my 996 for the first time today. I still have yet to find a proper oil filter wrench...I understand the correct one is 76mm and 14 flutes...I bought one of those and no joy. I also have a 74-76 15 flute, which I was able to get to fit tight enough to spin the housing off, after using oil wrench pliers to get it to start to loosen. I am still on the hunt for the proper oil filter wrench that is not $39 that Suncoast wants, since every other one I have ever bought in my life is about $4 bucks.
To make things more fun, the 10qt oil holder that I used had a leak in it that I didn't notice until it was almost full, so it was leaking oil down my driveway...which was awesome. Nonetheless, oil recycled, filter changed (no metal flakes, looked awesome) new filter on, housing spun back on, life is good.
Cheers,
DS
To make things more fun, the 10qt oil holder that I used had a leak in it that I didn't notice until it was almost full, so it was leaking oil down my driveway...which was awesome. Nonetheless, oil recycled, filter changed (no metal flakes, looked awesome) new filter on, housing spun back on, life is good.
Cheers,
DS
