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Old 04-28-2009, 12:06 PM
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Default Cabriolet's roll-over protection system

I am thinking about getting 996 Cabriolet but I am little concern about "roll-over protection system". It is spring loaded roll-over bar.

Does anyone have [unfortunate] experience with it? Are there any pictures of it deployed? How reliable is it [long term]? How strong is front window in case of roll over (comparing to coupe)?

Thanks,

Vadim.
Old 04-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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Im not sure but I am interested to hear the posts on this. I havent pushed the car hard enough to trigger them to come out yet, but I'm sure it'll scare the hell out of me when I do (if they're as loud as other ones ive seen)

I think if you keep the rubber side down youre safer tho
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I saw a video a while back of the system deploying. Amazing...it works quite well and fast. The front window is stronger than the coupe FWIW.
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Do a search and you will find more on this. The only detractor to this method of protecting occupants is if you roll over in an environment where the ground is soft. Then, the roll bars can dig into the ground. Of course, everyone drives their cars differently, but I have never felt any less safe being in my cabriolet.
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Originally Posted by Edgy01
Do a search and you will find more on this.
I did search before, but found roll cage related posts only. Anyway, searching more I did find this thread https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...tick-test.html which answers most of my questions. (I would assume that 996 would be very similar to 997).

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Everything is a trade off. The cabs are heavier than the coupes because of extra structural reinforcement. The A pillar is reinforced to support the weight of the upside down car. But let's be realistic, if the car is flipping over with me inside, I would rather be in a fixed roof car.
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They hold up rather well in roll overs, Ive seen a few that people walked from just a little banged up.
Really if your flipping a car................you probaly did something very wrong anyway.
They are 100% reliable (maybe too reliabe as they can deploy driving agressively) They deploy very fast and theres not much in the system that could fail.
The winsehild and frame are alos much stronger. Im confident that the frame would hold the car up without the help of the bars. But if im flipping a car ill take a coupe with a full cage.
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Deploid they just look like rear headrests.


Originally Posted by kutsyy
I am thinking about getting 996 Cabriolet but I am little concern about "roll-over protection system". It is spring loaded roll-over bar.

Does anyone have [unfortunate] experience with it? Are there any pictures of it deployed? How reliable is it [long term]? How strong is front window in case of roll over (comparing to coupe)?

Thanks,

Vadim.

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How'd you manage that one?
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HP gains from my Evo intake allowed me to take a quick flight.

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How'd you manage that one?
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My understanding is that with 996s you can deploy them and reset them yourselves. With the 997s you have to go back to the shop to have them reset.
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Here are some roll bars deployed when it counted!l



I have had the roll bars deploy from "getting too much air" on a road by my house. No big deal, I just stuck a screwdriver down in there to push them back down, and lock them in place.

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Originally Posted by kutsyy
I am thinking about getting 996 Cabriolet but I am little concern about "roll-over protection system". It is spring loaded roll-over bar.

Does anyone have [unfortunate] experience with it? Are there any pictures of it deployed? How reliable is it [long term]? How strong is front window in case of roll over (comparing to coupe)?

Thanks,

Vadim.
Partner, if you are thinking of a rollover you may want to buy a car with a full race cage. In my years of driving and tracking a cabrio this has not been a major deciding factor in purchasing this type of car. The pop up roll bars are more than adequate to protect the occupants. I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but this is almost like a thread I read many months ago in which a person looking at purchasing a 911 was concerned about gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by russo
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but this is almost like a thread I read many months ago in which a person looking at purchasing a 911 was concerned about gas mileage.

I know what you mean. But I have rolled my SUV a year ago. 911 is not SUV, but picture of my kids hanging upside down still be in my head, and I don't think it will go away anytime soon .


Thanks everyone, but after long consideration I will be mostly looking for 997 coupe. If cab had large single roll bar instead of two small one, I would probably consider cab more.


Thanks again,

Vadim.

PS: any recommendations on shopping for 911 in norther California are welcome.
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The 996 part of your understanding is true, I don't know about the 997.

Originally Posted by Edgy01
My understanding is that with 996s you can deploy them and reset them yourselves. With the 997s you have to go back to the shop to have them reset.


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