Originally Posted by arr0gant (Post 5362023)

So, call me Porsche-centric, that's a label I can surely live with!! :)

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi (Post 5362132)

But I would think you're passionate about the 911 because it's a car that drives well. It's unique.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi (Post 5362132)

It can't compare to the 911.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi (Post 5362132)

GTR. It's Japanese so it's ugly. It's for "ricers". It's fast, yea, but it's still not a Porsche..

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi (Post 5362132)

C'mon, you've read it all. You can be a steward of the brand and still acknowledge, appreciate other makes/models/types or vehicles even here in this forum since a lot of us own more than just the 996 and most certainly have a history with other makes.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Choi (Post 5362132)

... and am using TAILWAG's farewell post as a convenient lauching point 4 this slight digression.

Originally Posted by BruceP (Post 5362178)

Correct.



I've had three Bimmers. Loved them all. See your "unique" comment above.




Correct again. The GTR is a supercar, objectively. Kicks asses and takes names, objectively. Is faster, handles better, is better built. But also correct that it is still not a Porsche.



Sure. But I think you come down on people pretty hard for preferring their Porsches. You have to let go of this idea that there is a right and wrong and a best and worst. At this level of the game - with anything from cars to whatever - it's personal, not objective. In a Porsche forum, I should be able to get away with saying I respect the M3 or the S2000 but don't like them, and not have to defend my position.



TAILWAG opened this can of worms. I'm sure he'll get over it.

Originally Posted by bella1 (Post 5361868)

WRT that empty garage space, you may be interested in my car which I am trying to sell. I have posted FS and I also have an ad in Classified if you have an interest. $90K is the lowest it will go.

email bella@wbrinsurance.com and your C4 was a beauty!

Originally Posted by bella1 (Post 5361868)

WRT that empty garage space, you may be interested in my car which I am trying to sell. I have posted FS and I also have an ad in Classified if you have an interest. $90K is the lowest it will go.

email bella@wbrinsurance.com and your C4 was a beauty!

Originally Posted by BruceP (Post 5361133)

Personally, I don't understand why this forum needs to be agnostic to be legitimate. It's a Porsche forum, not a car enthusiasts' forum. And I haven't actually seen anyone here be arrogant about the assumed superiority of their 911. I've seen lots of people claim they're different, and lots of people accuse others of not "getting" it. That's not the same thing and, IMHO, it's a permissible bias when you're talking about a car that's had such a strange, epic history, such bizarre engineering, and such a tradition of irrational loyalty. To me, that's part of the pleasure of the car, and if it bothers someone then perhaps it's they who are insecure.

I love Porsches. It's not the same as having "blinders" on, and it doesn't imply I believe they are the best or even better than anything else. Porsches are what I came here to talk about; there are plenty of other sites on the 'net to talk about cars. If this site ever became some kind of let's-hold-hands-and-sing-Kumbaya forum where we all gush about every shiny new car that's fast on paper, I'd be the next guy out the door.

Originally Posted by TAILWAG (Post 5363986)

I don't know you in person so I surely hope that is not your everyday attitude. I clearly stated that "some" would take my comments personal - and you are obviously one of them and have proved my point quite well.

It is ok to love your car/911/Porsche...you have one for crying out loud - of course you are entitled to it. Just because this is a P forum, that does NOT mean you (when I say YOU I don't mean you for say - but anyone else) must have a swolen ego.

Again...some would take it personal - some get it, some don't.