gota911

RB - Yes, I would have liked to be told what was GOING to happen, and/or at the very LEAST, be told what DID happen. While I would not have declined either the new RMS or the air box, I would have made certain that they examine the clutch very carefully for wear. I can only assume that they did examine the clutch and that it was not worn excessively for 33K miles.

LVDell

Bingo, it's a design issue that can only be corrrected by improving the seal to offset the desgin issue. There is NO WAY to fix this issue without a redesign. Right now, we just have a kick-*** band-aid. However, with that said, we have put 65K miles on our 996CAB, it's been TOTALLY free of leaks, and have only replaced the RMS and IMS once and that was during a clutch replacement at 45K miles. IT just seems hit or miss on this issue.

gota911

Not only was the seal re-designed, a special installation tool was designed to aid in the proper installation and placement of the seal. Having read quite a few posts about the new seal, I recall that, overall, the feedback on the new seal seems to very positive. Some of this had come from those that have had both the “old” seal, and later, the “new” seal installed in their cars.

While I do not recall seeing too many RMS posts on the 997 Forum, it is still an issue, but it “appears” to be some what minimized compared to the 996. I know that there are a lot more 996s on the road than 997s, but the early results (3 years worth) on the new seal seem to be favorable.

My statements were made based upon general observation and recollections from the past 2 years of reading Rennlist post, so… “YMMV”… ”without expressed written consent is prohibited”… ”excluding tax, title, and license”… ”void where prohibited”… and all the rest of that happy horse-****.

jcb-memphis

These guys do work on commission. Keep that in mind....

JB

cdodkin

Good point - some mechs make jack-**** unless they replace a bunch of stuff on every car that comes in.

Sad way to run a business - but if you are forewarned etc etc etc....

AndyK

What is the normal life on a clutch that isn't raced? Is it the same as any other sports car--or are clutches in the 996 a weak link? Seems I see a lot of clutch replacements at 30k plus.

gota911

IIRC, many get 60K to 65K + miles out of the clutch. There have been a few that replaced them at around 30K, and some have gotten 85K + from the clutch.

AndyK

Funny how the clutch is always a "while you are in there" replacement due to the usual need to take the entire drivetrain out of a P-Car to fix a leak!

Kevin H. in Atl..

Tim,
Rest assured that they checked not only the clutch but the flywheel as well!

AndyK

When you bring a car that is under warranty to a dealer, isn't it usual procedure for that dealer to try and replace EVERYTHING he can, in order to bill Porsche and make more $$?

The clutch and flywheel are wear items though, and not warranty replacements usually - right?

Kevin H. in Atl..

Correct.
But you can bet your sweet bippie that every Porsche that sees a dealership service bay will receive a brief inspection; items like brake pads, rotors, and tires (also wear items), oil leaks, etc.

99firehawk

SAFTEY ISSUES we have been sued for not notifying customers that his tires were at 20% when he came in for a brake light bulb.
every car i check
tires
brakes
pieces falling off
major leaks
and
horns

no matter what the car is in for

blk on blk

I had them put my car on the no wash list after they swirled the hell out it.