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85eurocarrera 12-29-2019 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by yelcab (Post 16320031)
Go all the way, buy a 996GT3. It's the King of the Hill

true, but didn't see that option.😎 I could only get this clo$e so far. Lol
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c00831ba3f.jpg

Mark Sanderson 12-29-2019 10:20 PM

Which Foxwell scanner model should I get?
Mark!

808Bill 12-30-2019 11:07 AM

Buy a low mile roller and send it to Jake Raby...You'll thank me later!

TechSavvySam 12-30-2019 11:31 AM

Having purchased 15 months ago and had my share of post-purchase issues, I would insist on the following 996 specific additions to a PPI:

* drop the sump cover and look for debris that shouldn't be there (such as say a timing chain roller) <-- this is what bit me
* while the sump cover is off use a bore scope to check for bore scoring from the crank side of the piston <-- this one did not bite me

DO NOT assume that an engine that has bore scoring will be "ticking" or have sooty tail pipes. It might be early in the process and not be showing those symptoms.

Also keep in mind that you may not be the first person to drop the sump cover, so someone else may have previously removed all of the debris. For example, when I dropped my cover, I found ONE roller but when FSI repaired my engine, there were TWO rollers missing. This means some unscrupulous dirtbag took the other one out at some point... This is the kind of stuff that can happen when you buy ANY used car.

Mark Sanderson 12-30-2019 12:11 PM

Jake . . . .
 

Originally Posted by 808Bill (Post 16320716)
Buy a low mile roller and send it to Jake Raby...You'll thank me later!

I've been watching some of his videos, very knowledgeable to say the least. Racing/Autocross doesn't really interest me, but if that changed I'd probably head his direction . . .

Mark!

808Bill 12-30-2019 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Sanderson (Post 16320831)
I've been watching some of his videos, very knowledgeable to say the least. Racing/Autocross doesn't really interest me, but if that changed I'd probably head his direction . . .

Mark!

Racing has nothing to do with this, it's about reliability and longevity for a daily driven street car!

Mark Sanderson 12-30-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by 808Bill (Post 16320919)
Racing has nothing to do with this, it's about reliability and longevity for a daily driven street car!

Thank! This is precisely what I want, is a reliable daily driver . . . still learning!

Mark

808Bill 12-30-2019 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Sanderson (Post 16320924)
Thank! This is precisely what I want, is a reliable daily driver . . . still learning!

Mark

Jake address's all the known weak links in the m96 engine.

Flat6 Innovations 12-30-2019 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Mark Sanderson (Post 16320831)
I've been watching some of his videos, very knowledgeable to say the least. Racing/Autocross doesn't really interest me, but if that changed I'd probably head his direction . . .

Mark!

We stopped building “racing engines” years ago. I did build one in 2019, but the guy had to beg me to do it!
Most of what we build are dual purpose, daily driver engines that can be effectively taken to the track.

From a PPI perspective, it simply must be done, and done by someone that doesn’t assume the engine is good, just because it “runs fine”.
I have had a ton of requests for a PPI video for both 996, and 997. I believe this will be my next video released, now that I have finished the M9X engine rebuild video series. It won’t be free, but it will be valuable to purchasers that don’t want to get ripped off, and have their “Dream car” turn into a nightmare.

Mark Sanderson 12-30-2019 04:18 PM

Thanks for the info - your bore scoring and etc series are great info. I'm learning tons, for sure. For some reason, I assumed that you ran a racing shop . . . not sure why. Will you be creating a 996/997 (Metzger?) Turbo Series as well?

Thanks Again . . . Still Learning . . .

Mark!

Bash Hat 12-30-2019 10:18 PM

Mark,
There was a guy on here selling his roller. I spoke to him a couple months back. Nice guy, from KS I think. I can PM you his info if you want.

Mark Sanderson 12-31-2019 12:58 PM

Keeping it simple
 

Originally Posted by Bash Hat (Post 16322016)
Mark,
There was a guy on here selling his roller. I spoke to him a couple months back. Nice guy, from KS I think. I can PM you his info if you want.

Thanks, but since this will be my first Porsche I’d like to get some experience working on them first. I’d like the simplest entry into ownership as possible.
Mark

808Bill 12-31-2019 01:19 PM

My .02 is get a roller and send it to FSI, then drive and enjoy the rest of your 996 days.
A nice low mile 04 just showed up on FB...

Mark Sanderson 12-31-2019 07:59 PM

With an 11 to 13 month backlog I won’t be driving it for a while… I can only swing one Porsche at a time …
Mark

pdxmotorhead 12-31-2019 09:30 PM

If I get/do a PPI,, I do:
1. Leakdown
2. Scope the bores from the plug side.
3. Scope the bores from the bottom, drop the pan.
4. Antifreeze checked for age/send sample out.
5. Brake fluid check (Water content,, tells me how much the PO cares.. )
6. Hose down car to check for water leaks.
7. Trans fluid sample to lab.

Assumptions if I buy:
1. If I don't have records ,, the car gets a 100% fluid change.. Budget about 2K.
` - Brake fluid, Coolant, Engine Oil, Trans Oil, Front diff if its AWD.
2. New plugs
3. Air filter
4. Water Pump.
5. Cooling system cap.
6. Top and bottom detail so I can get chips etc touched up and the whole underside cleaned and the undercoating/rust block updated as needed.



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