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Old 05-22-2019, 09:01 PM
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Anybody use any of their upgraded parts? Was interested in the RMS upgrade, clutch disk, and suspension parts specifically. I like the idea of their cylinderical bearing IMS bearing too. Here is a link to their parts. https://www.europeanpartssolution.com/full-catalog
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Is there an emoticon for "take cover"? Not well liked around here, based on prior comments. I'm not personally against their products, but I've read a lot of less than supportive comments here.
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Originally Posted by Dryslick13
Anybody use any of their upgraded parts? Was interested in the RMS upgrade, clutch disk, and suspension parts specifically. I like the idea of their cylinderical bearing IMS bearing too. Here is a link to their parts. https://www.europeanpartssolution.com/full-catalog

Nope. I'd go with an OEM bearing before EPS. I've read their patent which is limited to one aspect (i.e. thrust control) of their IMS product, but yet market it as a ground up patented invention. Plus, since they're in competition with LN Engineering's IMS Solution, they have conveniently called their product the IMS bearing solution and setup a special website called "imsbearingsolution.com" and claim is the ONLY real and permanent solution. Ugh!
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My indy used the EPS Eternal IMS in my 996 when I bought it. He suggested it and installed on a number of vehicles with no ill effects. If you do a search you'll find a few posts with people having no problems around here with it.

It's a shame this place is so one sided when it comes to certain products. Competition is healthy! Anyway, it has a 5 year warranty. If it goes I'll be sure to bitch about it here.
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So they've got a bad rep because of how they've handled/named their IMS "solution," but has anyone here tried their "upgraded" clutch kit that claims "30% more contact area" supposedly resulting in longer life and better engagement action?
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I've got their LCA's - both wishbone and coffin arms on my car. They seem to perform well - no problems after 3 years. I wouldn't use their engine parts on my car.
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So they've got a bad rep because of how they've handled/named their IMS "solution,"
No, EPS (a.k.a Vertex Auto in Miami) got into the IMS game early on and quite a few of Rennlisters experienced bearing failure from their early bearing products. That's what started it. Then when the IMS solution was released, it wasn't long and copycat products started emerging. The entire IMS Solution assembly is patented and the name is trademarked unlike the EPS "IMS Bearing Solution" that has a patent for one little aspect (i.e. Axial control assembly - part#58 in the patent) of the entire assembly. Read the patent. They don't hold the patent for the actual cylindrical bearing or the flange. If I'm missing something in the U.S. Patent document, I would love for EPS to clarify.

Plain and simple, it's a matter of business integrity. When you make a IMS direct oil fed product that competes with the IMS Solution and then set up a special website and call the URL - imsbearingsolution.com and name the bearing on the site "IMS Bearing Solution", then that's pretty lame in my book. That would be like someone creating a cheap soda and calling it "Cocca Cola" and painting the can red and slightly exaggerated logo design similar to Coke.
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Originally Posted by Dryslick13
Anybody use any of their upgraded parts? Was interested in the RMS upgrade, clutch disk, and suspension parts specifically. I like the idea of their cylinderical bearing IMS bearing too. Here is a link to their parts. https://www.europeanpartssolution.com/full-catalog
I have their upgraded "tuning fork" control arms in my vehicle and am very pleased. For my purchase, had good communication, excellent quality parts and no concerns. That is all I have used from EPS.
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
No, EPS (a.k.a Vertex Auto in Miami) got into the IMS game early on and quite a few of Rennlisters experienced bearing failure from their early bearing products. That's what started it. Then when the IMS solution was released, it wasn't long and copycat products started emerging. The entire IMS Solution assembly is patented and the name is trademarked unlike the EPS "IMS Bearing Solution" that has a patent for one little aspect (i.e. Axial control assembly - part#58 in the patent) of the entire assembly. Read the patent. They don't hold the patent for the actual cylindrical bearing or the flange. If I'm missing something in the U.S. Patent document, I would love for EPS to clarify.

Plain and simple, it's a matter of business integrity. When you make a IMS direct oil fed product that competes with the IMS Solution and then set up a special website and call the URL - imsbearingsolution.com and name the bearing on the site "IMS Bearing Solution", then that's pretty lame in my book. That would be like someone creating a cheap soda and calling it "Cocca Cola" and painting the can red and slightly exaggerated logo design similar to Coke.
Thanks for the clarification for those of us who weren't in the P-car world as that was all happening! You're absolutely right that such a history reflects extremely poorly on the integrity of the people running the company. I asked because I might be doing a clutch soon as a while-you're-in-there-item if my misfire problem turns out to be the flywheel (that's a whole 'nother story/thread), so their "upgraded" clutch caught my eye. Based on this history I'll likely rule out that idea unless a bunch of users start to vouch for that product despite EPS's questionable IMS claims/practices.
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Originally Posted by FlyingShawn
Thanks for the clarification for those of us who weren't in the P-car world as that was all happening! You're absolutely right that such a history reflects extremely poorly on the integrity of the people running the company. I asked because I might be doing a clutch soon as a while-you're-in-there-item if my misfire problem turns out to be the flywheel (that's a whole 'nother story/thread), so their "upgraded" clutch caught my eye. Based on this history I'll likely rule out that idea unless a bunch of users start to vouch for that product despite EPS's questionable IMS claims/practices.
I would stick with the genuine OEM Porsche clutch kit and the OEM LuK dual mass flywheel. Many times, the flywheel is fine, but it will need to be tested for wear. I would think your misfire problem would be associated with the coil packs and/or spark plugs.
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
I would stick with the genuine OEM Porsche clutch kit and the OEM LuK dual mass flywheel. Many times, the flywheel is fine, but it will need to be tested for wear. I would think your misfire problem would be associated with the coil packs and/or spark plugs.
You would think so, but not in my case. The thread on my issue is already into the sixth page and has defied all attempts at a sensible explanation. Current theory is that there might be damage to the flywheel and I'm waiting on my overloaded indy to oscilloscope the output from the crank position sensor to find out:
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I have the LNE IMS bearing in my car and no issues. Had the RMS replaced with OEM part and still have a leak that is getting progressively worse. Was thinking the EPS RMS 8th bearing kit might help. Hope my crank is true and that the shop might have incorrectly installed the RMS. I won't take it back to the same shop. Have another Indy that is much better and trustworthy, but he is swamped with work being the only reliable German specialist in the area. I hope to have him do my clutch, RMS, input shaft seal, and AOS at some point. Might have him do the suspension bits while it is there too. I might have to buy another car to drive around while he has it though. Sounds like EPS uses some questionable advertising practices. They claim that there have been 0 IMS bearing failures with their product. Sounds like this is a false statement. Also noticed that there are lots of unanswered questions on their web site. Makes me a little leery of using their products.
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They sent me the wrong AOS twice...But where very responsive and quick to get it corrected. We'll see how the refund process goes as I had to pay again to get the correct one before they received the returned parts.
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We use their Cayenne Driveshaft Support Bearing repair kit all the time in our shop with great results. That's the only part I have experience with, but have been very pleased. I will be trying their clutch kit when mine is due.
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
I would stick with the genuine OEM Porsche clutch kit and the OEM LuK dual mass flywheel.
I've had good luck with Sachs and Luk. Both oem suppliers, prices are a lot more friendly.


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