I think it comes down to there being 3 kinds of men

1. Those who beat their wives

2. Those who think jokes about beating wives are funny

3. Those who don't

I never intended to quell jokes or surpress free speech ( that part is hard to do when you're not a government ) freedom of speech is enshrined in our charter of rights and freedoms , and is important .

i just wanted to point out that such jokes didn't make this a welcoming community for women and could lead to this forum turning into so many others . More about being polite than anything . Much like I wouldn't swear in church or while volunteering at the elementary school sports day . I was attacked for that and felt the need to explain I wasn't some sjw keyboard warrior , but rather a combat veteran and former first responder whose experience influenced his decision to speak up . I really didn't think this would blow up like this .
I'm an active PCA member , women are a huge part of that community , even holding chapter executive positions and writing technical articles and generally making it the great family community for Porsche enthusiasts that the club is.in the two Canadian PCA chapters I've belonged to , 25% of the cars were owned by women , and even more jointly owned and driven. There are some very fast women at the track days . Women buying Porsches are part of the reason why Vancouver is second only to Los Angles in North America for Porsche sales , with new dealerships about to open on the island too.

Ive learned a lot from this thread, the divisions we see on news from south of the 49th make a lot more sense now.

i guess I should thank both sides for that learning .
Im going back to working on cars now .

You mentioned three notorious communist states that you compared to ... someone saying a joke was in bad taste.

You compared feudalism which describes a social system in which different tiers of people have different rights and roles and which was enforced by threat of death , to someone saying a joke was in bad taste.

Who is overreacting, Mr Snowflake? Is your right to be not offended getting attacked? I mean, you did compare someone’s opinion about a joke being in poor taste to some of the most brutal and deadly regimes of the last 70 years. Seems like you were offended and you want to prevent that and attack others through histrionics.

I just want this bull**** moved to the correct forum where you can get all offended all day long at people you disagree with.

Look at you, falling back on a technical difference between communism as a theory and the states that practiced their own systems that were labeled as communism by themselves.

You are deflecting.

There is no desire for a central authority when an individual expresses an opinion. Again you sidestep the argument. You make up straw men, and knock them down in an attempt to look like the smartest guy in the board. And you are nothing of the sort.

And while I think the joke is in bad taste, my entire reaction has been “joke threads go elsewhere” and also to defend against the baseless statements against others.

Go back and reread post #17 amd #20 both were trying to exert control over this forum and it’s members and infringe on free speech in the name of taste and preference.

Dance around it, prose about your military service, blame others, but your words are diversionary at this point.

It is Orweliian, soy laden, socialist group think at best. You literally think you know best how everyone should behave and act at all times. It was a bad joke, but this behaviour is far worse and it is anti-American.

I served too. I’m not using it as a crutch to excuse my own behavior though. I’m not going to thank you for your service and bow down to your bad logic. I don’t want any thanks for mine either.

And if this wasn’t a public forum, I’d tell you in real clear words what kind of person you really are. You two are still trying to control this topic by attacking everyone with a different opinion.

The joke was bad, the attempt to label everyone that chuckled at it as a wife beater or someone that supports battering wives is atrocious. Then hiding behind your military service or any other excuse afterwords is doubling down on stupid.

Care to up the ante again?

I served so people can say whatever they want no matter what it is. It’s called defending The Constitution. Bad things happened to those women abroad because of their culture, laws and very likely religion. Denounce that; don’t blame me or anyone else for it. But you’re too much of a coward to denounce it; you’d rather sit in comfort behind your computer and blame me for it. There are words for people like that, but typing them here will get me in trouble.

I’m done with this steaming pile of Orwellian crap. Have a nice day.

Soy is an expression in far-right circles to describe men that have become feminized (aka the oestrogen found in soy or something). It’s a hidden insult of sorts, started on 4-chan and MRA forums. Thus my initial reaction.