What about Ohlins coilovers?
#1
Racer
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What about Ohlins coilovers?
Hi,
I hear great things about the Ohlins coil overs, but how can they have more comfort than the stock? They are much stiffer.
Currently running JIC ZMS-S and I am not super happy, very bounce ride and a lot of noise. Maybe they are blown but don't think so.
I hear great things about the Ohlins coil overs, but how can they have more comfort than the stock? They are much stiffer.
Currently running JIC ZMS-S and I am not super happy, very bounce ride and a lot of noise. Maybe they are blown but don't think so.
#2
I went from JRZ double adjustable to R&T GT3 and the difference was night and day....I love the ride now and also fantastic on the track....However, this is a personal preference thing and only you can decide vs others opinions.
#5
The Öhlins R/T*is made for those who want*trackworthiness but are unwilling to*compromise on*streetworthiness. The shock has a separate valve for absorption of quick compressions (bumps/smaller surface imperfections) in addition to the normal valve which controls constant compression (cornering). From what I gather, the Koni Frequency Selective Damping (FSD)*shocks have a similar technology.*
I have read countless reports of the Öhlins R/T having a more comfortable ride than the factory shocks/struts and springs on several platforms (mostly the E9x M3, but also S2K and others). I have also read several reports from those who have switched from more track oriented, more pricey coilover systems*and been much happier with the R/Ts for their*streetability while still being trackable. Those same folks usually said the R/T wasn’t necessarily a*great*performer on track, but was fine for a car which is used for 50% (or more) street driving and 50% (or less) track driving. They’re a bit too soft to be a dedicated track system, from what they say.*
The way I see it is: the*Öhlins R/T is the Pilot Super Sport (or, I guess Pilot Sport 4S now) of coilovers: mostly for a very sporty (yet comfortable)*street car, but (technically) capable*of track duty.*
I have not yet owned a set, though. I had planned to put them on my M3 after many months of reading reviews/threads on forums and asking people at car meets and such who had them what they thought about them and how they stacked up in comparison to relatively similar products. I was never overwhelmed by*the need to get them, however; the M3 was just fine for daily use and didn’t look bad at stock height. If I would’ve kept it instead of (or in addition to) getting this car, I would’ve gotten them because, at almost 80k miles, the suspension was due for a refresh anyway.*
To answer your question directly:*shocks (and all the parts of which most cars are comprised)*from the factory provide*the bare minimum performance*necessary to get the least of what the engineers and designers envisioned while being*competitive enough in the market to maximize returns on investments.*Öhlins is*an OEM manufacturer that develops*aftermarket solutions for those of us that are not satisfied with the bare minimum. Hence, the Öhlins R/T, which*satisfies the market segment that*wants very sporty driving dynamics without having back problems (a rapidly growing market segment).
Simply put,*the*R/T Dual Flow Valve (DFV) technology is the answer to why they can provide both better handling dynamics/road holding and more comfort simultaneously. The factory shocks don’t have that technology.*
I have read countless reports of the Öhlins R/T having a more comfortable ride than the factory shocks/struts and springs on several platforms (mostly the E9x M3, but also S2K and others). I have also read several reports from those who have switched from more track oriented, more pricey coilover systems*and been much happier with the R/Ts for their*streetability while still being trackable. Those same folks usually said the R/T wasn’t necessarily a*great*performer on track, but was fine for a car which is used for 50% (or more) street driving and 50% (or less) track driving. They’re a bit too soft to be a dedicated track system, from what they say.*
The way I see it is: the*Öhlins R/T is the Pilot Super Sport (or, I guess Pilot Sport 4S now) of coilovers: mostly for a very sporty (yet comfortable)*street car, but (technically) capable*of track duty.*
I have not yet owned a set, though. I had planned to put them on my M3 after many months of reading reviews/threads on forums and asking people at car meets and such who had them what they thought about them and how they stacked up in comparison to relatively similar products. I was never overwhelmed by*the need to get them, however; the M3 was just fine for daily use and didn’t look bad at stock height. If I would’ve kept it instead of (or in addition to) getting this car, I would’ve gotten them because, at almost 80k miles, the suspension was due for a refresh anyway.*
To answer your question directly:*shocks (and all the parts of which most cars are comprised)*from the factory provide*the bare minimum performance*necessary to get the least of what the engineers and designers envisioned while being*competitive enough in the market to maximize returns on investments.*Öhlins is*an OEM manufacturer that develops*aftermarket solutions for those of us that are not satisfied with the bare minimum. Hence, the Öhlins R/T, which*satisfies the market segment that*wants very sporty driving dynamics without having back problems (a rapidly growing market segment).
Simply put,*the*R/T Dual Flow Valve (DFV) technology is the answer to why they can provide both better handling dynamics/road holding and more comfort simultaneously. The factory shocks don’t have that technology.*
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Paolo1 (09-16-2023)
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I swapped out H&R street performance coilovers that was on the car with Ohlins R&T and happy with the ride and how it performed on the track. H&R had Tarret camber plate and quite noisy. The ride was and shock damping was poor. I also installed GT3 antiroll bars with stock shock mount and it is quite without any rattles or squeaks and at 9 from full soft on front and rear, it is firm but not uncomfortable in the DC metro area roads. I had it at 15 but it was too stiff on bumpy track surfaces.
#7
I swapped out H&R street performance coilovers that was on the car with Ohlins R&T and happy with the ride and how it performed on the track. H&R had Tarret camber plate and quite noisy. The ride was and shock damping was poor. I also installed GT3 antiroll bars with stock shock mount and it is quite without any rattles or squeaks and at 9 from full soft on front and rear, it is firm but not uncomfortable in the DC metro area roads. I had it at 15 but it was too stiff on bumpy track surfaces.
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How do they compare to the adjustability of the Bilstein Pss10 systems?
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They're both great products, but call for instance BBI (site sponsor and I am not affiliated) and ask about JRZ vs Öhlins for your car. Talk to some professionals that has owned a pair of them both... You also need to compare oranges to oranges - are you mounting a "touring" damper with original top mounts, a "racing" damper with camber plates and no isolation between suspension and body... etc. etc. People tend to have a lot of opinions based on the wrong facts and no knowledge what so ever when it comes to vehicle dynamics.
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Is it possible to set up the Ohlins R&T to standard USA C4S ride height? Or close to it? The web site indicates 20mm drop +- 15mm. I could handle 5mm-10mm drop, but 20mm would result in loud and potentially costly noises every time I left the driveway. Even at an angle.
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Is it possible to set up the Ohlins R&T to standard USA C4S ride height? Or close to it? The web site indicates 20mm drop +- 15mm. I could handle 5mm-10mm drop, but 20mm would result in loud and potentially costly noises every time I left the driveway. Even at an angle.