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Old 12-02-2018, 07:46 PM
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Not blowing my own horn, but the solution I came up w/is something I'd buy from the Snap-On guy, or NAPA, wherever - it really works when nothing else will.
Old 12-02-2018, 08:35 PM
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So did the piston make contact with the plug electrode? You said it was bent and now there’s piston damage. How on earth would that happen?
Old 12-03-2018, 04:41 AM
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Returning the WiFi bore scope tomorrow - right now it just makes a really nice bore lamp.

That alludes to: I can see inside the cylinder firing chamber - Lots 'o carbon on the piston(s) - I had to remove cylinder 1 and 3's plug, that is where the codes were coming from.

Tomorrow I'm going to pull all the plugs - now that I've got the bumper, heat shield, mufflers, muffler hangers off - all to change my spark plugs, talk about basic maintenance (sarcasm)

Lots 'o carbon on the pistons - there are nice clean parts on the piston(s) now. Talked to a tech at NAPA, he said that due to very close tolerances, it may be that the carbon interfaced (struck) the electrodes and led to them warping / bending, he did say that it is not uncommon -

however - I will verify w/a new bore scope tomorrow -

I did get the threads traced - performed that procedure very slowly, almost turn by turn - one turn in / back it out and vacuum the chamber - repeat -
Threads turned out really nice and accepted a new plug (just as place holder for the day not to let air in the combustion chamber, garage dust, etc.)

must say, my new tool works amazingly well - I'll snap a photo of it and post it - its very handy for just this sort of job
Old 12-03-2018, 08:44 AM
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Wow, I've never heard of that happening. I'm glad you got it resolved. Doing my coils and plugs over the weekend and thinking about this thread made me worry a bit but no troubles.
Old 12-03-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rjsupgen
I GOT IT!!!!

Invented a new tool to boot (do believe I did, not sure if I'm the only creative one out there)

Problem: electrode would not pass the last thread segment, it was bent

Off to buy a bore scope, take a look inside the cylinder
Congrats! Now, post images of the bore scope. Interested to see what you find.
Old 12-03-2018, 11:24 AM
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Next time you tap a spark plug hole, consider using a Back-Tap.
If you use it and a shop vac you won't end up with debris dropping into the cylinder.
It's the safest way to tap spark plug holes.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:30 AM
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A little grease on the thread chaser always worked for me.
Tex, do you use on that tool?
Old 12-03-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
A little grease on the thread chaser always worked for me.
Tex, do you use on that tool?
Yes, I use a little bit of grease on it too.
That catches most of the debris, but I follow up with a vacuum (Dyson Stick) that has a 3/8" hose connection.
My son 3D printed the adapter that accepts 3/8" hose for me.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:562661
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Sweet, I've got a Dyson cordless stick vac too - Look like I need to put my son to work building me accessories. I like the suggestion on pre-greasing the thread chaser.

will be at it again tonight, first, will return the WiFi bore scope for a unit with a built in screen - not sure why it is not broadcasting a video feed.

I'm up on its network, can interface w/the device, but no video. will solve that later. (iPhone and Android)
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When my mother-in-law bought a new Dyson stick vac, she gave me her old one for the shop.
It's great for vacuuming the inside of cars.
My wife has talked about replacing hers, so I may have two of them before too long.

Do a search on www.thingiverse.com for "Dyson". (Thanks to Bill for catching the wrong URL)
Oh, and while you're at it, do a search for "Porsche" and "996" and "Boxster" and...

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Old 12-03-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
Do a search on www.thingiverse.com for "Dyson".
Oh, and while you're at it, do a search for "Porsche" and "996" and "Boxster" and...
Typo there, I fixed it in this quote. It's thingiverse (with an "I" in between THING and VERSE). Someone is squatting on the other URL
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Originally Posted by bplein
Typo there, I fixed it in this quote. It's thingiverse (with an "I" in between THING and VERSE). Someone is squatting on the other URL
Thanks!
I guess I need to stop posting from my iPad mini.
My old eyes can’t see what I’m typin’.
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OK, all the work is done. No pictures yet of the cylinder / piston head. (new bore scope was not hooked up to my laptop)

I will have an independent, certified, mechanic look at it w/a professional grade bore scope before going forward.

May have to end this thread for a bit; this event may become a legal settlement.

Long and short, the wrong plugs were sold to me and damage (threads at a minimum) has occurred.

I am now in the process of establishing a chain of events.
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Originally Posted by rjsupgen
OK, all the work is done. No pictures yet of the cylinder / piston head. (new bore scope was not hooked up to my laptop)

I will have an independent, certified, mechanic look at it w/a professional grade bore scope before going forward.

May have to end this thread for a bit; this event may become a legal settlement.

Long and short, the wrong plugs were sold to me and damage (threads at a minimum) has occurred.

I am now in the process of establishing a chain of events.
I was going to ask about the plugs. Good luck!
Pics won't hurt your case...
Old 12-04-2018, 04:47 PM
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I will say this: good thing for this forum.
It identifies the time of failure and a description of events in a coherent timeline
I do have my purchase history
I went with a different brand of plug: never ever do that, lesson learned

Where I live, I do have much choice in my shopping options - if I want the parts same day
This is suppose to be general, very typical, maintenance -

I understand that shops have liability insurance for just this sort of thing, or - get a lawyer -


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