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Old 10-26-2018, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by turbogrill
Sounds about right!
my c2 cab with manual is 3324lbs with me (170lbs) in it, half a gas and some crap in the frunk.
Seems crazily accurate. 3324 (car weight) - 170 (your weight) - 174 (cab weight) - (9 * 6) (gas weight) - 2901 (Coupe weight).

My sources say you have 25 lbs of crap in frunk

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Old 10-26-2018, 12:00 PM
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Thanks. I can say the base with hardtop is out of the question. Seller won't provide carfax or details on the car.

I mught hold off til after christmas, and go 4s route.
Old 10-26-2018, 01:46 PM
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I'd buy the 4 case closed - The wide body 4 has much nicer cornering and IMO overall better design
80K car is nice sweet spot - Services done, probably new clutch/brakes and you'll have 15K of fun driving and sell before it hits 100K and retain a lot more value.
I've owned 2 996 C2's and 3 996 C4S's and will never buy another narrow body Porsche
Test drive both and do lots of cornering to experience what I am referring to.
Careful w/grey interior - Tend to show dirt and wear faster - Especially Cab sitting in sun.
Old 10-26-2018, 02:06 PM
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I'd just be careful, the C4 and the C4S are quite different. The OP wasn't clear which one he's talking about.
Old 10-27-2018, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by groovzilla
I'd buy the 4 case closed - The wide body 4 has much nicer cornering and IMO overall better design
80K car is nice sweet spot - Services done, probably new clutch/brakes and you'll have 15K of fun driving and sell before it hits 100K and retain a lot more value.
I've owned 2 996 C2's and 3 996 C4S's and will never buy another narrow body Porsche
Test drive both and do lots of cornering to experience what I am referring to.
Careful w/grey interior - Tend to show dirt and wear faster - Especially Cab sitting in sun.
thanks. That is my worry as well. Was looking at just 4 or 2 not 4s, but i don't want to regret not going widebody. Same thing if I go 997, i would prefer the widebody. As for interior I don't quite like all black as it looks too bland. My rover has brown i terior, my beater has grey. Maybe black with accented color but I haven't seen any.

Originally Posted by cds72911
I'd just be careful, the C4 and the C4S are quite different. The OP wasn't clear which one he's talking about.
yea c4s would be dope. I will take my time and not just pull the trigger on purchase. It's winter anyway lol... would definitwly test drive both first.
Old 10-31-2018, 12:15 AM
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My two cents from the experience of owning both cars. I had the 996 4 and the front differential began to make noise and then leak. Getting a shop to fix it right was a nightmare and very expensive. Furthermore, I did not notice any difference in performance with the way I drive my cars. I consider that option a complete waste of money and I will never make that mistake again. Screw the widebody 4. It will not get you out of a ditch and once the snow is more than a couple of inches it's useless because of how low the car is. Get a Subaru Crosstrek for snow driving. Next., I also had the manual transmission and the pinion gears went bad. Again, trying to find a local shop to fix it was impossible. Those gears require some kind of 50 ton press to get them off...total nightmare again. Even the Porsche specialty shops didn't want to deal with it. These cars are getting up in age and moving parts wear out and fail. The cost of repairing these cars can quickly surpass the purchase price. What's in your wallet? For me any 911 with "4" or "S" is nothing but trouble.

I got rid of that car and bought myself a 1999 996 base with Tiptronic and a hardtop. Best decision I ever made as there is less crap that will fail and is much more affordable. The 1999 also has a dual row IMS so the probability of failure is extremely low. So with that said, these cars are getting older and things will break. When they do break, ask yourself these questions:
1. Can I afford to fix it?
2. Is there a Porsche shop near me that can actually fix it right?
3. Is it worth fixing?
Ask your local Porsche shop how much to rebuild the front differential and manual transmission. Their answer might put things in perspective for you as it did for me. Again, just my two cents. (Hint, hint get a 1999 Base with Tiptronic with a hardtop and as few options as possible).


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Old 10-31-2018, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bangsters
I will take my time and not just pull the trigger on purchase. It's winter anyway lol... would definitwly test drive both first.
Get what you want. It's a 911 fer cripe sakes. Color, int, options, year, mx, history. Something will come along and you'll hit 777. Grab it up and enjoy. Wait for the right one, no compromise.
Old 10-31-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelo
My two cents from the experience of owning both cars. I had the 996 4 and the front differential began to make noise and then leak. Getting a shop to fix it right was a nightmare and very expensive. Furthermore, I did not notice any difference in performance with the way I drive my cars. I consider that option a complete waste of money and I will never make that mistake again. Screw the widebody 4. It will not get you out of a ditch and once the snow is more than a couple of inches it's useless because of how low the car is. Get a Subaru Crosstrek for snow driving. Next., I also had the manual transmission and the pinion gears went bad. Again, trying to find a local shop to fix it was impossible. Those gears require some kind of 50 ton press to get them off...total nightmare again. Even the Porsche specialty shops didn't want to deal with it. These cars are getting up in age and moving parts wear out and fail. The cost of repairing these cars can quickly surpass the purchase price. What's in your wallet? For me any 911 with "4" or "S" is nothing but trouble.

I got rid of that car and bought myself a 1999 996 base with Tiptronic and a hardtop. Best decision I ever made as there is less crap that will fail and is much more affordable. The 1999 also has a dual row IMS so the probability of failure is extremely low. So with that said, these cars are getting older and things will break. When they do break, ask yourself these questions:
1. Can I afford to fix it?
2. Is there a Porsche shop near me that can actually fix it right?
3. Is it worth fixing?
Ask your local Porsche shop how much to rebuild the front differential and manual transmission. Their answer might put things in perspective for you as it did for me. Again, just my two cents. (Hint, hint get a 1999 Base with Tiptronic with a hardtop and as few options as possible).

yours is a nice color. Like the dark red.

Yea will take my time and pick what I really want no compromise.
Old 10-31-2018, 09:56 AM
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I do not recommend that you get what you want - I did that and regretted it. You are better off compromising with the reality of what is around you - not what is in your head.
Old 10-31-2018, 11:01 AM
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Are you looking for a deal or have the car in tip top shape at time of purchase?
Not to hijack thread, but have a 02 C4 / Tip / Convertible with Hard top in triple blue. 61K miles for $16.5
Rather car go to rennlister than auction.
Old 10-31-2018, 11:25 AM
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Then again, this one looks to be pretty well sorted out.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post15399202
Old 10-31-2018, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pcasanova
Then again, this one looks to be pretty well sorted out.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post15399202
That one’s definitely worth a look.
Old 11-02-2018, 08:39 PM
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Thanks guys. I am taking my time. Also nit going to go overboard in terms of budget. The hunt continues...
Old 11-03-2018, 03:04 PM
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It seems like the C4 is the better deal. What you should look on is, what would be the value of the car after adding 30k miles to both. That would determine which is the better value to start out with. I definitely would go for the C4 with the better maintenance history. I am all about maintenance history, so which ever is maintained better is what I go for.
Old 11-03-2018, 04:47 PM
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So, what exactly are you looking for? Did you go test drive the other two last weekend?


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