My entry into the P-car world
#16
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Fireball...FWIW - it’s LNE (LN Engineering), not LNS... The original bearing = Lifetime ? Go do some more reading... your understanding of the issue is very shallow. While it is somewhat nuanced, it shouldn’t be difficult to grasp the fact that the use of a ball bearing to support the transmission end of the IMS was a bad idea. To say or think that it could or would last the “life of the engine” without failing was even worse - especially given the fact they were recommending 15k mike oil changes...
#17
Fireball...FWIW - it’s LNE (LN Engineering), not LNS... The original bearing = Lifetime ? Go do some more reading... your understanding of the issue is very shallow. While it is somewhat nuanced, it shouldn’t be difficult to grasp the fact that the use of a ball bearing to support the transmission end of the IMS was a bad idea. To say or think that it could or would last the “life of the engine” without failing was even worse - especially given the fact they were recommending 15k mike oil changes...
I'm just parroting what I'd read - or it may have been a video - which if I recall correctly was from a Porsche specialist. If I find it, I'll post it.
Anyway, I'm in no position to debate these things, which have already been debated to death. I don't have a fixed opinion on it... but many recent opinions do suggest that if the IMS hasn't gone already it probably wont, whereas the LNE part will need replacing on schedule :-)
Just what I've read. I'd love to be pointed to reference materials that are credible and not written by a garage that is selling the LNE replacement install :-)
#18
Congrats on a beautiful car!!! I'll follow along with interest as my car is also a low option car with no IMS upgrade (even though seller claims it has been done i'm treating it as if it hasnt) and similar mileage (currently at 114,8xx). I'll be doing most of my own wrenching as well so maybe we can compare notes from time to time
Drive the hell out of it brother! I wish mine were a daily driver but I recently bought a different car for that purpose.
Good luck and keep us updated!!!
Drive the hell out of it brother! I wish mine were a daily driver but I recently bought a different car for that purpose.
Good luck and keep us updated!!!
#19
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Now if I won the lottery I'd certainly have some bright colored cars in the stable. Reminds me, I need to buy a ticket...
#20
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The engine will be fine....
Having read everything I could find about IMS issues very recently, it would be a good bet to think you have nothing to worry about at this point. Especially if you drive it daily.
I picked up a similar model last month that does have an LNS replacement bearing. However I almost wish it hadnt been replaced; it's now got a service part instead of a lifetime part. At some point the LNS part will need replacing, whereas the Porsche part was designed to last the life of the engine.
Having read everything I could find about IMS issues very recently, it would be a good bet to think you have nothing to worry about at this point. Especially if you drive it daily.
I picked up a similar model last month that does have an LNS replacement bearing. However I almost wish it hadnt been replaced; it's now got a service part instead of a lifetime part. At some point the LNS part will need replacing, whereas the Porsche part was designed to last the life of the engine.
However, given the cost of a rebuild or replacement engine I'm not likely to gamble. I'm not in a panic to "fix" the IMS but it's something that I will address at some point in the future. There's a chance this is my "forever" car since there aren't many cars that could fill the shoes of a 911. A turbo is probably about it. Anything else either gets into big money or is out of the DD arena.
#21
I didn't know M97 parts could go on a M96, but I'm learning. I too suspect it's a rebuild. I haven't gotten under the car yet to look at the serial number--perhaps tonight. Thanks for the info!
If indeed it's an M97 style non-serviceable IMS bearing I'm thinking of getting the technoFix DOF from Pedro's Garage. I'd think it's a better idea than just holding my breath.
If indeed it's an M97 style non-serviceable IMS bearing I'm thinking of getting the technoFix DOF from Pedro's Garage. I'd think it's a better idea than just holding my breath.
#22
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Congrats on a beautiful car!!! I'll follow along with interest as my car is also a low option car with no IMS upgrade (even though seller claims it has been done i'm treating it as if it hasnt) and similar mileage (currently at 114,8xx). I'll be doing most of my own wrenching as well so maybe we can compare notes from time to time
Drive the hell out of it brother! I wish mine were a daily driver but I recently bought a different car for that purpose.
Good luck and keep us updated!!!
Drive the hell out of it brother! I wish mine were a daily driver but I recently bought a different car for that purpose.
Good luck and keep us updated!!!
Yeah, without proof, the IMS upgrade didn't happen.
I probably won't "drive it like you stole it" too often for fear of tickets, but I will definitely stretch it's legs when opportunity arises. Suggestion: Once yours is more sorted sell your current DD and switch to the 996.
#23
Thanks! Congrats to you too! I'm envious of your wheel choices. I wanted the 18" Turbo Twists, but when I saw what a set of replacement tires cost compared to a set of 17" replacements I was okay with the base wheels. At least for the near term.
Yeah, without proof, the IMS upgrade didn't happen.
I probably won't "drive it like you stole it" too often for fear of tickets, but I will definitely stretch it's legs when opportunity arises. Suggestion: Once yours is more sorted sell your current DD and switch to the 996.
Yeah, without proof, the IMS upgrade didn't happen.
I probably won't "drive it like you stole it" too often for fear of tickets, but I will definitely stretch it's legs when opportunity arises. Suggestion: Once yours is more sorted sell your current DD and switch to the 996.
I'll drive this thing pretty often but seeing how it qualifies for "Historic" tags and my collectors car insurance is only $219 per year (no mileage restriction) its hard to justify bringing it to work with me. It'll get used plenty after work however depending on how my two boys fit in the back. I'm 6'6" so it may be a little tight behind me lol
#24
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Im looking for either Turbo Twists (my car came with C4S wheels that wont work on narrow body) or Sport Design Wheels. To tell you the truth, for the right price, I'd slap on a set of 17s and enjoy cheaper tires also. I love sidewalls!!! I have always downsized when possible to get a nicer ride and more wheel protection from the terrible streets in Baltimore...
I'll drive this thing pretty often but seeing how it qualifies for "Historic" tags and my collectors car insurance is only $219 per year (no mileage restriction) its hard to justify bringing it to work with me. It'll get used plenty after work however depending on how my two boys fit in the back. I'm 6'6" so it may be a little tight behind me lol
I'll drive this thing pretty often but seeing how it qualifies for "Historic" tags and my collectors car insurance is only $219 per year (no mileage restriction) its hard to justify bringing it to work with me. It'll get used plenty after work however depending on how my two boys fit in the back. I'm 6'6" so it may be a little tight behind me lol
Is that $219 full coverage or liability only? I'm paying ~$300 per year for liability only (at least that's what they said on the phone), which I thought was a reasonable price.
#25
No wonder it had Fikse on it! I'd bet the story of how the original wheels became C4S wheels is interesting. We don't have awful roads here in southwest VA, but yeah, for the time being I'll enjoy my 17s. Perhaps some day they'll host winter tires and I'll have some Turbo Twists with summer only tires.
Is that $219 full coverage or liability only? I'm paying ~$300 per year for liability only (at least that's what they said on the phone), which I thought was a reasonable price.
Is that $219 full coverage or liability only? I'm paying ~$300 per year for liability only (at least that's what they said on the phone), which I thought was a reasonable price.
Once I "restore" it and add some fun bits to it, i can add a list of parts, etc and adjust the agreed value to suit whatever I need.
My Fox mustang thats got a ton of work done to it is $400 a year but its insured for $25K I believe.
But again, this is not for "daily" use. Recreation, shows, dinners, etc are allowed but to and from work, etc isnt.
#26
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Here's the front license plate kit that I used: https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin...EL-996-BRACKET
The screws that I have screw into pieces that press fit into the existing holes in the bumper. That does not look like what you have, the license plate is too close to the bumper. Also, the bumper is pretty easy to take off, but I haven't seen any of these brackets that require that.
The screws that I have screw into pieces that press fit into the existing holes in the bumper. That does not look like what you have, the license plate is too close to the bumper. Also, the bumper is pretty easy to take off, but I haven't seen any of these brackets that require that.
When I got home I grabbed the license plate hardware and oops, not gonna work.
The "tabs" should expand and lock the spacer block to the bumper. But in this case either the hole is too big or the expansion wasn't enough because only one of the screws had any traction and it was pitiful traction at that. Dremel too the rescue. I had to shave the tabs off and trim some of the plastic so the spacer block would fit flush.
Here's an image as I tightened everything down.
And here's what it looks like complete. Nice and snug.
Now I don't fear my front license plate falling off. And it only cost ~$3.00 for six nylon nuts. Sweet.
TAGS: 996 front license plate install
#27
On a Porsche, the fewer the options...the better the car. Less crap that will break. You did good. Change out the water pump, the white coolant tank and put in some new quality anti-freeze and your daily driver will love ya for it.
#28
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Well, the options list is what it is. Personally I'd love to have a few more, but it's (obviously) not a deal-breaker for me. While there are options I'd like (X51, 220, 982, 030) the only thing I really wish it had was heated seats (139, 340, 342). But I'll survive.
The car came with a few receipts a couple of which I am glad to have. It got a coolant reservoir in 2009, a left window regulator in 2010, and a brake booster in 2011. While it's been a while since the coolant reservoir was replaced I probably won't replace it soon. A coolant flush and a water pump might be in order though.
But first I've got to diagnose some oil drips...
#29
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And if it is a factory replacement engine with non serviceable bearing, get the seal off of the bearing! The bearing then can sit in fresh oil (no need for DOF) instead of old trapped oil as the grease has most likely been washed away by now. At 50K my grease was gone...
#30
Thanks!
Well, the options list is what it is. Personally I'd love to have a few more, but it's (obviously) not a deal-breaker for me. While there are options I'd like (X51, 220, 982, 030) the only thing I really wish it had was heated seats (139, 340, 342). But I'll survive.
The car came with a few receipts a couple of which I am glad to have. It got a coolant reservoir in 2009, a left window regulator in 2010, and a brake booster in 2011. While it's been a while since the coolant reservoir was replaced I probably won't replace it soon. A coolant flush and a water pump might be in order though.
But first I've got to diagnose some oil drips...
Well, the options list is what it is. Personally I'd love to have a few more, but it's (obviously) not a deal-breaker for me. While there are options I'd like (X51, 220, 982, 030) the only thing I really wish it had was heated seats (139, 340, 342). But I'll survive.
The car came with a few receipts a couple of which I am glad to have. It got a coolant reservoir in 2009, a left window regulator in 2010, and a brake booster in 2011. While it's been a while since the coolant reservoir was replaced I probably won't replace it soon. A coolant flush and a water pump might be in order though.
But first I've got to diagnose some oil drips...