Not A Good Day Today...
08-30-2018, 07:09 PM
#76
My hearts not into selling as a roller, have owend it for 10 great yrs;with all the maintence done to a fault.
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Checking w a few shops in the Bay Area ; it seems no one wants to mess w a rebuild of a SHORT BLOCK reman, whichh is cheaper and more readily avail .( "TOO INVOLVED and risky"
Going the long block route will leave me "under water" asthey say, with the currentsale prices of my car. But not giving up yet;
GOOD LUCK to you and your decision.
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Checking w a few shops in the Bay Area ; it seems no one wants to mess w a rebuild of a SHORT BLOCK reman, whichh is cheaper and more readily avail .( "TOO INVOLVED and risky"
Going the long block route will leave me "under water" asthey say, with the currentsale prices of my car. But not giving up yet;
GOOD LUCK to you and your decision.
is that not doable ?
08-31-2018, 12:56 AM
#78
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thanks for your info, Chef.
Will be selling my car as a roller for sure. My techie and his partner are putting together an offer for me next week.
Will keep the Forum posted on how it all goes.
Bill
Will be selling my car as a roller for sure. My techie and his partner are putting together an offer for me next week.
Will keep the Forum posted on how it all goes.
Bill
08-31-2018, 08:38 AM
#79
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"There are several rebuilt long blocks for $11K. Let's say for $10K with some negotiation."
^^ The question becomes, From who? And, what does "rebuilt" mean? i.e. what parts have been replaced? Have the cylinders been sleeved? If so, what kind of sleeves were used? Etc...
^^ The question becomes, From who? And, what does "rebuilt" mean? i.e. what parts have been replaced? Have the cylinders been sleeved? If so, what kind of sleeves were used? Etc...
08-31-2018, 09:23 AM
#81
For sake of argument a long block is almost "plug and play" where a short block will require some assembly most notably the cylinder heads will not be included.
08-31-2018, 03:10 PM
#84
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The 2 top rebuilders I've found are RND and Jake Raby (FLAT6) both are busy and pricey; but with complete long and short blocks
sleeved and new top end parts (long block). The problem I've found pricing and wait aside Oisin the SF Bay Area it impossible to
find an INDY that wants to tackle a short block(cheaper) rebuild. Bu haven't given up yet. not ready to sell it as a roller.
sleeved and new top end parts (long block). The problem I've found pricing and wait aside Oisin the SF Bay Area it impossible to
find an INDY that wants to tackle a short block(cheaper) rebuild. Bu haven't given up yet. not ready to sell it as a roller.
08-31-2018, 03:48 PM
#85
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08-31-2018, 05:30 PM
#87
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Guys, I know it sucks, but when anyone faces the situation of a catastrophic failure like this, we have to just suck it up and face it one way or another. It’s not the end of the world to lose $15k in a day. If it is, we are driving the wrong car.
How can we justify $15k loss in a day? Well, it’s not technically a day. It’s over the lifetime of our vehicle ownership. We can lose $15k-$25k on a minivan.
Heres the way to get over a loss like this:
1). Get the car rebuilt and then sell it as a rebuilt car. We will likely not lose $15k, but maybe 1/2 that amount, if it’s done right.
2.) Buy a cheap Mazda for $3k and drive that in the meantime.
These cars are a steal at $18k all day long, but they should be worth $35k if history is any guide. I’m not saying we should hold the car for 10-15 years, but holding for 6-12 will almost certainly result in a sustained (flat) price. The risk is continuing to drive the car. Hence, the $3k Mazda point I made earlier.
How can we justify $15k loss in a day? Well, it’s not technically a day. It’s over the lifetime of our vehicle ownership. We can lose $15k-$25k on a minivan.
Heres the way to get over a loss like this:
1). Get the car rebuilt and then sell it as a rebuilt car. We will likely not lose $15k, but maybe 1/2 that amount, if it’s done right.
2.) Buy a cheap Mazda for $3k and drive that in the meantime.
These cars are a steal at $18k all day long, but they should be worth $35k if history is any guide. I’m not saying we should hold the car for 10-15 years, but holding for 6-12 will almost certainly result in a sustained (flat) price. The risk is continuing to drive the car. Hence, the $3k Mazda point I made earlier.
09-01-2018, 07:11 PM
#89
Guys, I know it sucks, but when anyone faces the situation of a catastrophic failure like this, we have to just suck it up and face it one way or another. It’s not the end of the world to lose $15k in a day. If it is, we are driving the wrong car.
How can we justify $15k loss in a day? Well, it’s not technically a day. It’s over the lifetime of our vehicle ownership. We can lose $15k-$25k on a minivan.
Heres the way to get over a loss like this:
1). Get the car rebuilt and then sell it as a rebuilt car. We will likely not lose $15k, but maybe 1/2 that amount, if it’s done right.
2.) Buy a cheap Mazda for $3k and drive that in the meantime.
These cars are a steal at $18k all day long, but they should be worth $35k if history is any guide. I’m not saying we should hold the car for 10-15 years, but holding for 6-12 will almost certainly result in a sustained (flat) price. The risk is continuing to drive the car. Hence, the $3k Mazda point I made earlier.
How can we justify $15k loss in a day? Well, it’s not technically a day. It’s over the lifetime of our vehicle ownership. We can lose $15k-$25k on a minivan.
Heres the way to get over a loss like this:
1). Get the car rebuilt and then sell it as a rebuilt car. We will likely not lose $15k, but maybe 1/2 that amount, if it’s done right.
2.) Buy a cheap Mazda for $3k and drive that in the meantime.
These cars are a steal at $18k all day long, but they should be worth $35k if history is any guide. I’m not saying we should hold the car for 10-15 years, but holding for 6-12 will almost certainly result in a sustained (flat) price. The risk is continuing to drive the car. Hence, the $3k Mazda point I made earlier.
09-01-2018, 09:58 PM
#90
Instructor
Thread Starter
Welp...
I sold it yesterday as a roller for $4.5K. My techie bought it.
Will soon start looking for a replacement machine. Most likely it will be a 997.2.
Have to say I loved every minute behind the wheel of my cab for many years. I feel I got my money’s worth out of it many times over.
And even in the very end, it failed just a half mile from my techie’s shop.
Thanks for all the great advice offered in this thread. And, if you haven’t already done it, replace those tensioners and that cam chain at regular intervals.
Cheers and happy Porsche motoring!
Bill
I sold it yesterday as a roller for $4.5K. My techie bought it.
Will soon start looking for a replacement machine. Most likely it will be a 997.2.
Have to say I loved every minute behind the wheel of my cab for many years. I feel I got my money’s worth out of it many times over.
And even in the very end, it failed just a half mile from my techie’s shop.
Thanks for all the great advice offered in this thread. And, if you haven’t already done it, replace those tensioners and that cam chain at regular intervals.
Cheers and happy Porsche motoring!
Bill