Lancruza

Here's some info from Renegade Hybrids. This is the company that Hoovie used for his swap. They recommend an LS3 be used. Not really sure why he used a LS2. I find the swap pretty interesting. In their conversion they use an electric water pump and electric power steering pump. An LS3 and a 3.4 are very close to the same weight. 430HP -

http://www.renegadehybrids.com/996/LS-1.html

TheDeckMan

At this rate with his success with cars, perhaps he should stick to riding the bus.

wildbilly32

I think all he used from Renegade was a parts kit. He had a "super mechanic" Vern or someone like that to do the install. The Renegade dudes appear to do it right, but Hoover would never spend the money for that because it wouldn't be a story. Used an engine from a scrap yard...nuff said.

dporto

^^Ha^^ Yeah, he calls him "The Wizard" !!! The dude didn't even have a pointy hat with stars on it... I didn't see much magic happening either

Lancruza

Yep, that's right. He just ordered the conversion kit from them and had his mechanic do the install. I spoke with a guy at Renegade and he didn't seem too pleased with the video that Hoovie shot showing the "Wizard" installing the swap. He pointed out several things that were done incorrectly. I've been toying around with the swap idea for a while. I'm looking for a 99 or 2000 roller. I bet it would be a great driver. We'll see.

Andrew Stowell

Renegade only has themselves to blame for the bad press of Hoovie installing their kit incorrectly.

They don't include any instructions besides how to wire up the tach! Which Hoovie still couldn't get to work because he used an LS2 instead of an LS3.

Their kit is overpriced for how much stuff is left to the owner to figure out how to make work. A lot of things have to be made from scratch even with their most expensive kit.

De Jeeper

Renagade deff has the knowledge to make the swap easier. They have nice products too. Before i got the motor running on my roller i was talking with them about a swap. They recomend the ls3 because its design has several performance advantages over previous generations of ls motors. Also u can get gm performance engines with with warrente. The ls swap isnt for everyone and its not about weight, but power to weight. It will deff change the characteristics of the car ands its drivability.

im still gonna do the swap but now i have time to build the motor i want. Its gonna be a 500hp that spins to 8k and it will be at the top end so it keeps some of the driving characteristics. I should be in the 9-10k in brand new parts and although thats a lot its no where near a reliable 500hp flat 6. Bottom line is speed costs money and not everyone spends it the same way.

808Bill

2 Years ago Renegade quoted me $30K to do the swap...I laughed and hung up!

NuttyProfessor

Don't want to sound like a commercial, but this is exactly more reason why I'd hire Raby's team at Flat 6 Innovations.

Mike Murphy

De Jeeper

The total swap for my car will be in the 15k range because im doing all the work myself and it will be a street car. Im not looking for back end value as my car would have none even with a raby engine. So, for me its just going to be a fun project car that will keep up with my buddies ls6 miata.

TexSquirrel

Lancruza

I totally understand people who want to keep a Porsche ALL Porsche. I also get why some people will choose other routes. If I chose to go the swap route, I would probably look for a wrecked Vette and pull the LS3 for a swap. I would also do the work myself like De Jeeper is going to do. Porsche labor rates are astronomical. I should be able to save mucho dinero by doing it myself.

Hey DeJeeper, are you going to use a Renegade kit for your conversion?

De Jeeper

At least some of it. I already have a porsche electric steering pump from a newer gt-3 and im gonna run the factory ls water pump. The electric water pumps dont flow enough. The clutch and adapter are from kennedy. I dont need any of the accessory brackets either because they r all available from summit or jegs. I can make the mm plate and mounts but the renagades pieces r pretty nice and i doubt ill spend the time redesigning the wheel. The thing is, u can buy the parts ala-cart from renegade and their pricing is actually really good so buying their kit may even save money. I have already bought 2 csf rads from them and they beat everyone elses prices.

Bottom line is renagade makes a difficult swap easier so im sure i will take advantage of their knowledge.

ill start a build thread but that probably wont happen till early next year, maybe even later because as i said i was able to fix my roller motor so im gonna take my time.

also not sure if u have seen ls3 yard prices. They think they r made of gold and used 80k motors r 6k, hence the decision to build my own.

Byprodriver

Yes, that's what I did back in 2010, went to Jake's 1st engine rebuild class, got back home & pulled my engine that had never given me any trouble other than insufficient low rpm torque. Now instead of a stream of non running rollers I only worry about someone totaling my car. If that happens I buy it back from Ins.co & transfer engine to the roller of my choise.