997 Shifter in 996 Impressions
05-08-2018, 10:02 AM
#16
Rennlist Member
I went from the 997 to the Numeric. I actually did not know my car had the 997 shifter in it until I went to install the Numeric. As others say, it is amazing! I did compare the 997 shifter to my buddies 996, and the 997 does feel better, and tighter, but nowhere near what the Numeric feels like. The shifts are like flicking a light switch.
If you just want something a bit tighter, the 997 is good value, and a quick install. The Numeric is next level, may almost be overkill for the street, but I track my car so it is way worth it, even if it was 4% of what I paid for the entire car.
If you just want something a bit tighter, the 997 is good value, and a quick install. The Numeric is next level, may almost be overkill for the street, but I track my car so it is way worth it, even if it was 4% of what I paid for the entire car.
05-08-2018, 03:47 PM
#17
I went from the 997 to the Numeric. I actually did not know my car had the 997 shifter in it until I went to install the Numeric. As others say, it is amazing! I did compare the 997 shifter to my buddies 996, and the 997 does feel better, and tighter, but nowhere near what the Numeric feels like. The shifts are like flicking a light switch.
If you just want something a bit tighter, the 997 is good value, and a quick install. The Numeric is next level, may almost be overkill for the street, but I track my car so it is way worth it, even if it was 4% of what I paid for the entire car.
If you just want something a bit tighter, the 997 is good value, and a quick install. The Numeric is next level, may almost be overkill for the street, but I track my car so it is way worth it, even if it was 4% of what I paid for the entire car.
05-08-2018, 04:29 PM
#19
Racer
Thread Starter
I drove the car for about an hour today.
Maybe my 996 shifter was just in good shape because after some extended seat time I can tell zero difference between the 996 and 997.
Maybe my 996 shifter was just in good shape because after some extended seat time I can tell zero difference between the 996 and 997.
05-08-2018, 04:43 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
I could not tell the difference between a 996 and 997 shifter when both had stock cables adjusted properly.
Now, the 997ssk is a different story great improvement over 996/997 stock shifter.
Full disclosure, I just pulled out my 997 ssk and stock cables, I now have a Numeric shifter and Numeric Cables, that is the end game for 6 speed Porsche shifting, but big price tag.
05-10-2018, 11:14 AM
#21
Drifting
I am looking for this shifter as well. A friend who did this mod allowed me to feel his shifts, and it felt a lot better than mine. My friend got his for $70 and said that there was a bunch of them when he bought his for that, I am trying to find one around that price range, but I am having a hard time finding it at the price point that I want.
05-11-2018, 12:42 AM
#22
Burning Brakes
The 997 shifter is a little better - internals are slightly different adding some rigidity. If you are concerned with “slop,” then 997 is better. Then you can add the GT3-like metal bushings from Phenix Engineering to remove more slop. Another option is replacing the internals from Function First.
Last edited by tomcat; 05-11-2018 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Spell check misspelled Phenix
05-11-2018, 12:49 AM
#23
Race Car
The 997 shifter is a little better - internals are slightly different adding some rigidity. If you are concerned with “slop,” then 997 is better. Then you can add the GT3-like metal bushings from Phoenix Engineering to remove more slop. Another option is replacing the internals from Function First.
05-11-2018, 12:16 PM
#24
I currently have an 03' 996 C4S and the shifter is smoother and I prefer it over the 06' 997 C2S I had a few years ago. The 997 was definitely tighter though, where as the 996 feels to have a hair more slop...but its so butter smooth it doesn't bother me much. I didn't enjoy the stock 997 shifter in my '06 so I upgraded to a B&M and was satisfied but not blown away.
I haven't lifted the boot to see if my 996 has a stock shifter in it but I think it is. It has the carbon/aluminum **** and handbrake. The throws don't seem very short but they are extremely smooth. It actually surprised me the first time I drove it, was not expecting that to happen.
I haven't lifted the boot to see if my 996 has a stock shifter in it but I think it is. It has the carbon/aluminum **** and handbrake. The throws don't seem very short but they are extremely smooth. It actually surprised me the first time I drove it, was not expecting that to happen.
05-11-2018, 04:30 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
I put a "Bens" shift kit in mine last year and the difference was very noticeable. Much shorter throw and more precise feeling. I don't know if I'd go so far to say like bolt action rifle (at least a good one), but definitely much shorter and tighter.
05-11-2018, 04:44 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
I currently have an 03' 996 C4S and the shifter is smoother and I prefer it over the 06' 997 C2S I had a few years ago. The 997 was definitely tighter though, where as the 996 feels to have a hair more slop...but its so butter smooth it doesn't bother me much. I didn't enjoy the stock 997 shifter in my '06 so I upgraded to a B&M and was satisfied but not blown away.
I haven't lifted the boot to see if my 996 has a stock shifter in it but I think it is. It has the carbon/aluminum **** and handbrake. The throws don't seem very short but they are extremely smooth. It actually surprised me the first time I drove it, was not expecting that to happen.
I haven't lifted the boot to see if my 996 has a stock shifter in it but I think it is. It has the carbon/aluminum **** and handbrake. The throws don't seem very short but they are extremely smooth. It actually surprised me the first time I drove it, was not expecting that to happen.
interesting, Matt is your car optioned with
XCZ Short shifter ?
I've seen this mentioned on a few Turbos
05-11-2018, 05:02 PM
#27
So it’s possible it’s not stock but I’ll have to investigate to confirm. I don’t feel like the throws are very short but I don’t have another 996 here to compare it against. I may have time to take a look tonight.
05-11-2018, 08:50 PM
#28
Rennlist Member
I’m very happy wth my 997 SSK. Much more enjoyable rowing through the gears. Suits my clutch tempo for downshifts and rev matching. Even more enjoyable when you can find one for sale for $350 or less.
05-12-2018, 11:26 AM
#30
Maybe my 997 shifter just was a bad example. When I bought the car it only had ~6k miles on it and looked/drove like brand new. I remember taking it apart and trying to adjust the cables or doing anything to help it out some. It was quite notchy at times and not near as smooth as my current 996. Swapping to the B&M did make a nice difference in throws and feel over the stock 997 unit, at least for me.
