roadblock

It's started already- it's a 911 not a 944

Charles Navarro

The factory "reman" engines, both complete and now shortblock, use new blocks. They don't recondition them.

We put Nickies in all of them. We refuse to direct plate.

It's been my experience that every block, unless it has less than 20-30k miles, is out of round. And yes, we have purchased new block - they are perfectly round without taper from the factory - MA1 engines included. Budget rebuilders that tell you otherwise just do the fingernail test - if there are no scratches in the bores you can't catch with a fingernail, they just throw rings at it. They might not even own a bore gauge or know how to use it let alone a profilometer to make sure the bore's Ra finish is in spec to even allow new rings to set.

Porschetech3

Are you SURE they use new blocks? If so would indicate a great effort by them to keep cost of ownership down. The new blocks price is over 10k and has been since available, hasn't changed much. If they are selling new blocks with pistons, rods, crank, bearings, chains. ect for 6-7k they are making a considerable effort to keep owner cost down.

I agree that the factory blocks are ovaling over time and that your sleeves are a better long term choice.

Charles Navarro

Absolutely positive. Been told that from several sources they use new blocks and actually don't reuse any of the original cores. We've pulled apart reman engines in the past from the dealership and everything is 100% new.

Slakker

Great thread with great information. Thanks for all of your input Charles!

Coopduc

roadblock

Must be a misprint- looks like a long block for 24K

ksjohn

Because of this thread and my plan to buy a 996 later this year, while I was in the Porsche dealership in KC the other day checking on some other parts, I asked the parts guy about the re-manufactured short blocks.

He told me the cost was:

3.4L $5,800

3.6L $6200

I did not ask any details as I just wanted the info for possible future reference.

gtred

I was just in the local Porsche service dept getting some work done on the car. The car next to me was a 996 getting a new (reman) shortblock. The service adviser went over the ticket with me: Approx 6K for shortblock + 6K for labor and about 1k in gaskets,etc. The total bill came to 13k and change. He clarified that there would be additional charges if the heads needed to be rebuilt. 13+K to bring another 996 back from the grave; factory warranty; count me in!

strathconaman

What about the PCA discount?

808Bill

I'm now looking at rollers due to this latest discovery!

z driver 88t

This is a really interesting find. A quick internet search using the part number yielded results as low as $5850 with a $2690 core charge. This does ease the "scare" of owning an M96 car.

NYoutftr

Jeepers!

I would have never done the $4000 job of ims/rms if I knew this
I did as preventative , ims was prefect that came out .

Why would anyone spend $24 k for rebuild , when you could do this and get warranty?

What dealer was it?

Charles Navarro

Run the other way from any shop, dealership including, that will put a used head onto a new shortblock.

Coopduc