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Do the needful and drop that bish into the 996. YOLO.
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Sell the LT1 in the Corvette, drop the new motor in, and have even more fun at the drag strip.
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Palletize and store the new motor and let time decide between option 1 and option 2
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V8 Swap into a perfectly good 996?

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Old 08-22-2017, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by numbah9
Having watched Tyler Hoover's videos on YouTube, it surprises me a) how little instruction Renegade Hybrids give you and b) how much metal you have to cut out of the car to make a Gen III smallblock fit.
Yeah, sounds like an opportunity for someone to productize this. Same thing that happened with the guy and company that put a manual in a GT3RS. Granted, there's not much of a market, but still, you would have though that's the whole reason for a kit in the first place.
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I have two vettes and two P cars so I really am downsizing. My detailer did a nice job on the 35 year old paint but the 78 is really a 10 footer. I can't wait to see how he can make the 996 glow.

I am not surprised on how hard engine swaps are. I've never seen a "bolt on" that was as simple as advertised. Once you put the real costs on paper complete with details reality becomes shocking. I was going to build a cobra kit until I did my due diligence. I have four cool cars for less.
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Originally Posted by TonyTwoBags
Pretty vette Anthony.

Seriously - I'm not sure which costs more: a 20k FSI build or going off the deep end with a LS adventure.
A post here by someone who had talked to Renegade said they quoted him $30k to do the whole swap. Not sure what was included.

So yeah...not as cheap as an FSI, depending on what you calculate your own time is worth on a DIY. That is unless you go with the 3.8 Track Performer + like someone we know...
Old 08-22-2017, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wildbilly32
A post here by someone who had talked to Renegade said they quoted him $30k to do the whole swap. Not sure what was included.

So yeah...not as cheap as an FSI, depending on what you calculate your own time is worth on a DIY. That is unless you go with the 3.8 Track Performer + like someone we know...

This begs an interesting comparison.


LS swapped 996 vs. build Raby 996. I'm not talking just a drag race either, but a full test driving it in traffic A/C on, canyon carving, and some lap times on a tight and longish road course. I'm also not talking best lap time either, but like a 5 lap or 10 lap average. In raw power the V8 will have an advantage, but in lap time maybe not, especially after 5 or 6 laps of roasting tires on corner exit or maybe it'll just dominate all around. I'd love to see the comparison to know.


I have a feeling many would be surprised at the outcome all around. To me there are a lot of engine swaps that make sense, but so far I'm not convinced that a 996 is the correct chassis for it. I plan to keep mine eternally flat 6 powered, but I'm silly like that.


I'm also going to buy an FD RX7 and leave it rotary powered! So that alone should convince anyone I'm looney. I guess that probably means I sorta fit in around here though.
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Looney isn't all bad.

The SBC is begging for a stripped out early Camaro with a cut down rear-end and 11" slicks and a $10k paint job. Just a Saturday night cruiser.

After all he does live in So. Cal.!
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Originally Posted by wildbilly32
Looney isn't all bad.

The SBC is begging for a stripped out early Camaro with a cut down rear-end and 11" slicks and a $10k paint job. Just a Saturday night cruiser.

After all he does live in So. Cal.!


So. Cal requires a Corvette. Now Oklahoma or North Texas... that's Camaro country, or even better South Carolina (all places I've lived by the way).
Old 08-22-2017, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyTwoBags
Pretty vette Anthony.



Seriously - I'm not sure which costs more: a 20k FSI build or going off the deep end with a LS adventure.
I think it's a classic case of people being attracted by the costs of the motor (and the costs of the kit) and thinking, hey, that's easy!

Turns out, it isn't.
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Originally Posted by Atrox
Dump the 996 and v8, then buy a turbo 996. Then start posting in the forum we need new blood.
right!!!
quit wasting time on a car that is appoaching 20 years, and with known insurmountable engine problems (or which requires thousands of dollars invested to ATTEMPT to fix a factory problem).
Get a newer model problem-free Porsche or other car that you do not need to tiptoe around, OR buy a real classic earlier Porsche.... not the inferior 996 that we spend endless hours on this forum trying to justify and defend.
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Originally Posted by numbah9
I think it's a classic case of people being attracted by the costs of the motor (and the costs of the kit) and thinking, hey, that's easy!

Turns out, it isn't.
Speaking of flawed hueristics:

Originally Posted by stasha
right!!!
quit wasting time on a car that is appoaching 20 years, and with known insurmountable engine problems (or which requires thousands of dollars invested to ATTEMPT to fix a factory problem).
Get a newer model problem-free Porsche or other car that you do not need to tiptoe around, OR buy a real classic earlier Porsche.... not the inferior 996 that we spend endless hours on this forum trying to justify and defend.
Great idea, quit wasting time on a 20yo car & buy a 30yo car! Or a 10yo car that needs its engine case split to put a permanent IMS bearing in it. Quite the cognitive turd here.
Old 08-23-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stasha
right!!!
quit wasting time on a car that is appoaching 20 years, and with known insurmountable engine problems (or which requires thousands of dollars invested to ATTEMPT to fix a factory problem).
Get a newer model problem-free Porsche or other car that you do not need to tiptoe around, OR buy a real classic earlier Porsche.... not the inferior 996 that we spend endless hours on this forum trying to justify and defend.
This is hilarious. Really needed that laugh today.


So the permanent solution is not a true solution? The 997.1 isn't 20 years old yet, maybe that would be a more viable newer option?
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Wow, this went sideways in directions I couldn’t have imagined. Quite an...array...of opinions.
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
Wow, this went sideways in directions I couldn’t have imagined. Quite an...array...of opinions.
And that's a surprise how?

BTW, what's the best oil for that SBC?
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
Wow, this went sideways in directions I couldn’t have imagined. Quite an...array...of opinions.
On a long enough timeline, all threads devolve into senseless bickering over the merits behind tangents designed to trigger the delicate sensibilities of bored, slightly OCD posters.
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Originally Posted by TonyTwoBags
On a long enough timeline, all threads devolve into senseless bickering over the merits behind tangents designed to trigger the delicate sensibilities of bored, slightly OCD posters.
"In the long run, we are all dead." --John Maynard Keynes

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