Getting my new 993TT smogged...
10-01-2014, 01:46 PM
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Getting my new 993TT smogged...
I know this topic has been discussed many times and have done some homework on previouse threads... but I'm still not 100% sure. My car is getting dropped off next week and will have to get it vin verified and smogged (In California). The previous owner had the catalytic coverters removed...
I've heard that as long as the "readiness codes" are set, the car should pass with flying colors. On the other hand, some people say no catz = fail.
Any advice? Thanks in advance!
I've heard that as long as the "readiness codes" are set, the car should pass with flying colors. On the other hand, some people say no catz = fail.
Any advice? Thanks in advance!
10-01-2014, 02:00 PM
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California + No Cats = Red Flag 
I'm no expert... don't live there anymore but I don't think it would pass. Any chance of putting them back on for the test, a yearly problem ? Good luck
I'm no expert... don't live there anymore but I don't think it would pass. Any chance of putting them back on for the test, a yearly problem ? Good luck
10-01-2014, 02:07 PM
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No cats present will certainly fail the visual examination unless you're taking to a buddy's shop and he is willing to look the other way. I'm not up on Cali emissions regs but I'm obviously aware that they are the most stringent in the country. Will the car be smog'd or just checked for readiness codes?
It honestly depends on the tolerance level of NOx and CO for the given vehicle. Even if your car is running right at stoich for the fuel octane, the emissions might exceed the upper limits for your engine, thus failing the smog test.
In my own case, PA has nearly as strict emissions standards as CA but since my car is register classic, I don't have to pass emissions. I still have Fabspeed 200 cell cats though.
It honestly depends on the tolerance level of NOx and CO for the given vehicle. Even if your car is running right at stoich for the fuel octane, the emissions might exceed the upper limits for your engine, thus failing the smog test.
In my own case, PA has nearly as strict emissions standards as CA but since my car is register classic, I don't have to pass emissions. I still have Fabspeed 200 cell cats though.
10-01-2014, 03:31 PM
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I doubt it'll pass the sniffer w/o the cats. Find a place that will test it w/o it hooked up to the DMV database just to see the readings. Tell them you just bought the car and you want to check its Cleanliness. Don't say anything about the cats. Play dumb and just say you are curious about the readings as you want to check the health of the motor.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.
10-01-2014, 07:29 PM
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Have the smog place check the computer first before they do the actual test. Don't want to start ruining the almighty carfax, or better a few red flags to the wonderful people at the DMV
10-01-2014, 07:59 PM
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Do as Chad recommends. The genius that I bought my car from ran to the smog station after having the engine built to 3.8 without measuring the tailpipe emissions first. My cars carfax will forever have the "gross polluter" label on it from 2005 
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I doubt it'll pass the sniffer w/o the cats. Find a place that will test it w/o it hooked up to the DMV database just to see the readings. Tell them you just bought the car and you want to check its Cleanliness. Don't say anything about the cats. Play dumb and just say you are curious about the readings as you want to check the health of the motor.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.
10-02-2014, 03:27 PM
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Do as Chad recommends. The genius that I bought my car from ran to the smog station after having the engine built to 3.8 without measuring the tailpipe first. My cars carfax will forever have the "gross polluter" label on it from 2005
Do as Chad recommends. The genius that I bought my car from ran to the smog station after having the engine built to 3.8 without measuring the tailpipe first. My cars carfax will forever have the "gross polluter" label on it from 2005
Scott, my old car Frank was a gross polluter: Your car is the reason there are no mosquitoes in Westlake Village and no live birdies on your street.
10-02-2014, 06:05 PM
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Are you allowed to tell us what has become of your Andial? Still in the area? Hope you're well
10-06-2014, 07:43 PM
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I doubt it'll pass the sniffer w/o the cats. Find a place that will test it w/o it hooked up to the DMV database just to see the readings. Tell them you just bought the car and you want to check its Cleanliness. Don't say anything about the cats. Play dumb and just say you are curious about the readings as you want to check the health of the motor.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.
If it's numbers are good then you could ask them for a real smog. At that point the tech may not even look for the cats. Besides they aren't that easy to see on our cars anyway/most people may even thing the heater box around the pipes could be a cat. I think you know where I am going with this.