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Old 01-25-2013, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
I can't recall the rennlister's name at the moment but the red andial car with turboS ducts I recall was sunroof delete...he bought a vette...his name is on the tip of my tongue. he also had just rebuilt the engine before selling.
911/Q45
Old 01-25-2013, 06:02 AM
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Guys, we all know the sunroofs are noisy b*stards over 150mph and prone to leaving the vehicle over 190mph....... do the right thing and get proper roof welded on and whilst at it ditch the gutters

Old 01-25-2013, 11:00 AM
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^^ Agree. All the cool kids are doing it.
Old 01-25-2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Basal Skull
ahh 911/Q45 or Don...
His car unforunately was crashed by the new owner, there was a thread on it also awhile back, a shame.
yes last night I remembered the details. too bad that was a sweet car and a good deal when he sold it.
Old 01-25-2013, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Only1Buck
My option code sticker


Code Option Description
09991 manufacture from the exclusive-programme
139 Seat Heating - Left
340 Seat heating - Right
373 Left Sport Seat w/ Power Height Adjuster
374 Right Sport Seat w/ Power Height Adjuster
454 Automatic speed control
520 Controle d'habitacle (Alarm)
688 Radio cd CDR210
XE3 993: Dimming Rear-View Mirror

My point being there is no option code for sunroof delete because to have a sunroof you have to option the car that way ... am I missing something here?
Of course. That makes complete sense!

Originally Posted by Only1Buck
Goodnight Gracie
The fact that I get it and know who Gracie is says it all ....
Old 01-25-2013, 01:45 PM
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I am certainly showing my age with the Gracie comment
Old 01-25-2013, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike J
As far as factory sunroof delete, some numbers from the new Turbo book (worldwide numbers, not just US) - counts include all variants and GT models.

1996 - Total worldwide 993 Turbos (inc X50 package, GT2, GTR2 ) = 3931 units
1996 - Total worldwide 993 Turbo with sunroof = 3163
1996 - Total worldwide 993 Turbos with sportseats = 1126

Percentage of Turbos in 1996 with Sunroofs = 80%
Percentage of Turbos in 1996 with Sport Seats = 29%

1997 - Total worldwide 993 Turbos (inc X50 package, S, GT2) = 2052 units
1997 - Total worldwide 993 Turbo with sunroof = 1796
1997 - Total worldwide 993 Turbos with sportseats = 574

Percentage of Turbos in 1997 with Sunroofs = 88%
Percentage of Turbos in 1997 with Sport Seats = 28%

Cheers,

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Never seen those numbers. Guess that makes a 993 turbo with sunroof delete and sportseats quite rare regardless if its being a 1996 or 1997 car. Makes me wonder how many "standard" 993 Turbo that came with the carbon fiber interior. Anyone knows?

When I was looking for my turbo I specifically wanted both sportseats and sunroof delete. I do track the car occasionally and wanted the extra head space wearing a helmet and I think the car looks nice without. In the long run less that can go wrong. But that was a minor consideration I admit. At the time when I bought the car I did not realize the problems reported when driving in high speed with sunroof. But then again you don´t drive at those speeds that much. Not even on the derestricted parts of the german Autobahn. That should be a non problem for most owners.

I have a sunroof in my other car and I almost never use it. I could not care less if it came without it. With that said I believe that some type of cars thats got sunroofs out of glass that makes the cabin feels more aery can be nice. But I don´t see the need to be able to open them actually. Many modern cars have bad headroom because of their sunroof solutions and sloping rear roofs. Especially in the backseat. Take the BMW 3 series or Audi A4 as an example.
Old 01-25-2013, 03:12 PM
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Yeah, personal choice for sure. I use my sunroof just about every time I drive it, but then again is a poor man's substitue for the Targa roof I had for 10 years. I would not buy one without a sunroof, I like the fresh air and it has a better air circulation feel than the windows being open. I think the sales stats show that tendency.

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Old 01-25-2013, 04:12 PM
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have any rlisters lost their sunroof at speed? I find it hard to believe below 200 mph that it would be an issue. perhaps I am wrong about this.
Old 01-25-2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
have any rlisters lost their sunroof at speed? I find it hard to believe below 200 mph that it would be an issue. perhaps I am wrong about this.
Well .... not personally. But I was present at the vMax event when MOD500 lost his at somewhere around 190. The entire unit just lifted off. Very James Bond-ish. Maybe these RSTuning cars are fast after all ...
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That was a factory sunroof delete, in a fashion.

The funny thing was the panel was never found; perhaps it went into orbit. MOD500's expressions after the event were pretty funny; it was a huge WTF moment at first because he didn't know what happened for a second or two except that it suddenly got very breezy and even noisier.
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I like my sunroof and the gutters. I wouldn't buy a car without them. My $2.00 worth :-)
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Originally Posted by Felix
The funny thing was the panel was never found; perhaps it went into orbit.
I never knew that, Felix! But I do seem to remember a rather large amount of blue painters' tape on everyone's sunroof for subsequent runs.
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I like my sunroof too and use it quite often; but I understand you can shed quite a bit of weight by removing the mechanism.
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
have any rlisters lost their sunroof at speed? I find it hard to believe below 200 mph that it would be an issue. perhaps I am wrong about this.
My PR/land speed record, November 2012 was 151 MPH. Sunroof was good-to-go. No issues.

I love the sunroof. Use it all the time. Even cold weather, with the heater cranked.

The smallness of the 993 cabin, with the small A-pillars, seating position, combined with the rake and curve of the windshield; it's about as close to being in a cabriolet as you can get. For me, that's a plus.


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