kaktis993

It's been listed on Autotrader for a while now and the dealer just renewed the ad.

On the plus side it's right in the range of what I'm looking for as far as mileage, price, mods and color but a couple things throw some warning flags... according to Carfax it's been on the market for an entire year now, seems almost suspiciously long. Also it has a Greddy boost controller installed which I'm not convinced is entirely a good thing depending on how it's been used. In a quick Rennlist search it seems that some folks like them while others feel that they're merely a time bomb waiting to happen.

In the long process of shopping for a 993 I've had the unfortunate experience of having to pass on several cars that were in excellent overall shape due to the discovery major mechanical issues during the PPI process, or in one case uncovering evidence of abuse which came up while researching a car's history. Just hoping to avoid that situation again. So what do you all think?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false

Kein_Ersatz

Chip and Matt at Auto Assets area good local P car service shop, they service my 993tt.

Tim Wasmer

As a former Arena owner........Looks like suspension has been done. Aftermarket exhaust. He can't take pictures worth **** and you need to have a full PPI done. That being said it LOOK's nice.

Wish i could get one at this moment....

PS: And if those pictures were taken in OH they were taken in the summer. Not sure where in OH there is green grass right now

kaktis993

Thanks guys! Apparently it has a Techart suspension which I know very little about. A search on the subject here turned up virtually nothing and Techart doesn't really tout 993 products on their website anymore. I'm curious how this setup would compare to PSS10's or the Bilstein HDs? It has a Techart exhaust as well.

lol sharp eye, apparently the car was listed for sale a year ago and then taken off the market only to be re-listed now. I assume those pictures are about a year old.

roarke01

Best of luck!

kaktis993

Hey thanks Bryan, hope all is well!

Mike J

I also looked at this car, but need to arrange some things before I can offer so I am likely not to move. However, I also received a reply from the sales guy that threw me off. It went like this:

When I asked if they had done a compression or leakdown test, the reply was:

Thanks for your interest.

We have not done a leakdown or compression test on the car. We have not
gotten that far along in the selling process. Some people will not require
it due the condition of the car overall.
Let me know if you need additional information.

I would NEVER dole out $60,000 without those basic checks...or is this just me???

Cheers,

Mike

shawsan

I don't see anything wrong with his reply. If you wanted to buy the car, I'd expect the buyer to pay for a compression test, etc. And, I'd get it done by a 3rd party.

Mike J

No, I would expect the compression test, its the tone of "why would I ask that since the car is in such nice shape".

Perhaps I am mis-reading this?

Cheers,

Mike

CincyScott

It's near Columbus, which is a couple hours from me. I go there regularly for work, I'm in Phoenix next week, but could put my hands on it the week after if you'd like?

WHB Porsche

Mike - I think you're completely misreading it. Sounds like he basically said "not everybody opts for a full PPI, and we haven't had a potential buyer run one yet." It didn't seem at all like resistance or surprise that you'd wonder.

pstoppani

I would not buy a car that has boost controller unless It was part of a respected tuner kit.

kaktis993

I completely agree, I'd also be running quickly in the opposite direction if they refused to allow a leakdown, compression check and thorough PPI to be performed by a 3rd party. The seller also runs a Porsche service shop and has carried out maintenance on this particular car for years now. I think he just meant that if a buyer came along, fell in love with the car at first sight and was willing to put money down on the spot with no leakdown, etc. he'd sell it to them that way.

What an awesome offer! I'm just a few miles south of you in Lexington and fly through Columbus fairly regularly so getting there isnt too tough for me, I really appreciate it though!

kaktis993

That's my biggest concern right now, the car's already had 1 turbo replaced because of an oil leak, can't help but wonder if it was related to a turbine overspeed or overboost situation caused by this boost controller. No car is perfect but I'm concerned about the effect that long-term use of this gadget could have on engine longevity. All I know is that it was installed by the original owner some time before 2003. Other than that everything appears to check out clean at first glance.

Tim Wasmer

What gets me is this. A car like this at a dealer is a crap shoot. A dealer that knows these cars knows these types of tests are going to be requested. BUT if it is a "shoot from the hip this is cool buyer" they would not care about the real condition of the car. A little spit shine will make a turd look great.

This car has potential. The dealer needs to be ignored with regards to the REAL condition of the car. Get a trusted source to inspect it and don't share that info with the dealer. You bought it, you own it (the info).

If you like the car get it looked at. Someone here can recommended a good shop. Then you know . Lots of people here tune their cars. And even though they may not pay RUF(or reputable tuner) money to do so that does not flush the upgrade outright as a hack job.

Just my .02