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Old 04-05-2005, 01:59 AM
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Y.S "but remember it's all about the torque which our cars don't have esp on the low end.."

I disagree, modifed 993tt are torque motors. It's fairly easy to generate 450-500 lb ft. at 4000 rpm in the 3.6 tt motor with minor mods. The Viper, btw produces 490 at 3800 rpm. I know that the factory 3.8 GT2's were getting 650 ft lbs at 4500 rpm with over 500 ft lbs at 4000 rpm. In the european sports car series in 97-98 the GT2's would pull the Vipers out of the corners before the FIA restricted the porsche's inlet.
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Yea I didnt understand that comment either no torque? 400 ft lbs is alot of torque. and its easy and inexpensive to mod a TT(realtively) to get 450 hp and 450 ft lbs.
Now its not my Chevy truck which has 600 ftlbs but my truck cant beat a viper. and I DONT want to be running around in a bad boy toyota supra either. If I wanted to run with that crowd then I would get a honda with a coffee can on the back and a wooden wing
Old 04-05-2005, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JJayB
I disagree, modifed 993tt are torque motors. It's fairly easy to generate 450-500 lb ft. at 4000 rpm in the 3.6 tt motor with minor mods. The Viper, btw produces 490 at 3800 rpm. I know that the factory 3.8 GT2's were getting 650 ft lbs at 4500 rpm with over 500 ft lbs at 4000 rpm. In the european sports car series in 97-98 the GT2's would pull the Vipers out of the corners before the FIA restricted the porsche's inlet.
Hey Jim can I borrow your motor for Cal Speedway this weekend....
Old 04-05-2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGuy
If I wanted to run with that crowd then I would get a honda with a coffee can on the back and a wooden wing
There's nothing wrong driving a Supra you know and i don't understand why certain people just can't think past certain cars It's my understanding that it's the Porsche and the ferrari guys that always look down on other makes and yes their is a reason why supra has that big fart can I personally don't like corvette which btw i think is a very nice car but you know what i never talk **** about that car either,it's just not for me.
I hope i am not starting my car better then your car thread but why can't certain people acknowledge that their are better performing cars out there then the porsches and the ferraris.
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:52 PM
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Yasir I was just kidding thats why I put the big smiley on there. Supras are big HP for value cars i was just giving a fellow rennlister a hard time!!
You are good here!!
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Originally Posted by OldGuy
Yasir I was just kidding thats why I put the big smiley on there. Supras are big HP for value cars i was just giving a fellow rennlister a hard time!!
You are good here!!
OG,
I really found it surprising to hear those comments from you and yes i am glad you explained it and for that my apologies.
However i do agree with you in hanging out with certain crowds and trust me i hate Supras from that point of view but it really is a great day to day car yet it lacks something that a Porsche has and thats why i bought a C2 Turbo.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:57 PM
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Yasir why is that suprising? I have an overactive sense of humor and it gets me in trouble once in awhile. No apology needed!! just a misunderstanding and a bad joke on my part!
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I can't believe a water pumper is on the 993 board giving an air cooled buddy a hard time, what has this world come to?
Yasir, Paul used to be a great guy, I don't know what happened to him since about a month
Old 04-05-2005, 04:23 PM
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Jean,
Buyers remorse. Even worse, sellers remorse !
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You know whats even worse ----is my wife is driving the GT3 all the time. I have to drive my truck!
sheesh although 300hp and 600 ftlb of torques not too bad.
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Originally Posted by OldGuy
sheesh although 300hp and 600 ftlb of torques not too bad.
See here we go again,please no more Torque thingy,j/k
Old 04-05-2005, 06:24 PM
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By next Monday I will post my 60-130 times (before I have my greddy reprogrammed). I will
try low boost (.8 bar), high boost (.95 bar), and possibly a run on a half tank of race gas.
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Marty , looking forward to it, don't forget the videocam if you have one!

How easy/difficult is it to install the Greddy Profec and have it properly calibrated on an engine? Can a good DIYer do it or does it need professional help? Anyone who has done it...?
Old 04-05-2005, 11:09 PM
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Jauder
" Jim, did you get a chance to do a 60-120 run yet? I dont remember seeing yours posted."

Yes I did post. 60-130mph on damp toll road but cool temp. average was 7.3 over 3 runs. I need a passenger to time me as its more difficult than it seems. No one at the rest home wants to ride with me cause I scare em.

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Why would I put my almost stock street car engine in an all out race car with serious suspension like yours. Good luck at Fontana.

FWIW, beware of E55's. My best run on stock pos Conti's is 12:46@116. at the old Carlsbad (no traction) raceway b4 it closed. Guys on the east coast are low 12's. If they catch you off boost your toast.
Old 04-06-2005, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JJayB
FWIW, beware of E55's. My best run on stock pos Conti's is 12:46@116. at the old Carlsbad (no traction) raceway b4 it closed. Guys on the east coast are low 12's. If they catch you off boost your toast.
Jim, that seems a bit low, You must have had serious traction loss that day. If I am not mistaken you have the Andial 3.8 Ltr twin plug engine? I would guess your car should be below 12s and 125 mph or more. A very mildly modified 500 hp 996GT2 driven on stock tires gave us those times, 996TT was at 112mph.


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