Dropping engine. Drop transaxle or not?
10-25-2016, 07:39 PM
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Dropping engine. Drop transaxle or not? Play by play of process
Going to drop the engine to do a ton of maintenance work as well as LWFW and clutch over the winter. What's the best method - drop the engine and transaxle as a unit or just remove the engine? Pros and Cons of either way? TIA.
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10-25-2016, 08:34 PM
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I can't compare the two, as I've only dropped the engine and transaxle as a unit.
But, would definitely enjoy a play-by-play as you go along. Good luck with the project!
But, would definitely enjoy a play-by-play as you go along. Good luck with the project!
10-25-2016, 10:23 PM
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10-25-2016, 10:35 PM
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Gonna watch this thread as I'm helping the boy with this job.
Way back when I started playing with VW's and Porsches in the late '60's and early '70's, I had to rebuild the engine on my DD '66 VW beetle. Just dropped the engine leaving the transaxle. Whenver I dropped the engines on my various 914's I dropped the whole engine/transaxle as it was easier with the midengine.
Would think the 911 would be more like the beetle, but obviously the lump is quite a bit heavier...
Not having to screw with the half shafts, etc would make dropping just the engine easier, but maybe there are other concerns...
Way back when I started playing with VW's and Porsches in the late '60's and early '70's, I had to rebuild the engine on my DD '66 VW beetle. Just dropped the engine leaving the transaxle. Whenver I dropped the engines on my various 914's I dropped the whole engine/transaxle as it was easier with the midengine.
Would think the 911 would be more like the beetle, but obviously the lump is quite a bit heavier...
Not having to screw with the half shafts, etc would make dropping just the engine easier, but maybe there are other concerns...
10-26-2016, 12:42 AM
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You can go either way. Mainly depends on your tediousness tolerance. Biggest hurdle for a first-timer doing engine only is getting the clutch release fork/shaft/throwout bearing to mesh properly on re-installation.
Sure was easier in the no-AC/carb/push clutch world of the up-to-'69s.
Sure was easier in the no-AC/carb/push clutch world of the up-to-'69s.
10-26-2016, 02:26 AM
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I know when Mark and Darin did my clutch, they said they wouldn't do an awd car w/o dropping motor next time. Too much adjusting, (repeatedly) to try and clear things, to get trans out.
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10-27-2016, 11:26 AM
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You can go either way. Mainly depends on your tediousness tolerance. Biggest hurdle for a first-timer doing engine only is getting the clutch release fork/shaft/throwout bearing to mesh properly on re-installation.
Sure was easier in the no-AC/carb/push clutch world of the up-to-'69s.
Sure was easier in the no-AC/carb/push clutch world of the up-to-'69s.
10-27-2016, 10:20 PM
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Can't imagine re-installing the engine with the tranny still up there.
Do yourself a favor and drop every thing.
Have a look here :
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...f-gravity.html
for a cheap and safe way to bring it all down smoothly.
Do yourself a favor and drop every thing.
Have a look here :
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...f-gravity.html
for a cheap and safe way to bring it all down smoothly.
10-27-2016, 10:26 PM
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I've only done the whole assy. Use your favorite means to support the motor-mine is an ATV jack-and I used a trans jack, which is nice and compact and easy to raise/lower with a ratchet, to support the trans. Have fun!
10-28-2016, 06:22 PM
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Got a little head start today. Car is on the jacks and rear bumper came off without much trouble at all. Overall everything is pretty clean so far, which is nice to see...but can't wait to do a really deep clean when everything is out!
Will be dropping the engine and transaxle as a unit per the recommendations - thanks to all who chimed in.
Geo - whats the benefit of detaching the accelerator cable in the footwell? Easier than lower in the engine a bit and disconnecting? Is is harder to reassemble that way?
Will keep people posted next time I am in the garage!
Will be dropping the engine and transaxle as a unit per the recommendations - thanks to all who chimed in.
Geo - whats the benefit of detaching the accelerator cable in the footwell? Easier than lower in the engine a bit and disconnecting? Is is harder to reassemble that way?
Will keep people posted next time I am in the garage!
10-28-2016, 07:16 PM
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You can also dismantle the accelerator cable from the throttle body as you down and eventually up.
If you can take a lot of pictures, there is two holes in this area, on mine the plug was missing so I had to guess in which hole the cable has to go.
Rubber tydowns do a good job of keeping the shafts out of the way, also don't waste time trying to remove the unit with the starter installed, it gets really tight as you go down.
If you can take a lot of pictures, there is two holes in this area, on mine the plug was missing so I had to guess in which hole the cable has to go.
Rubber tydowns do a good job of keeping the shafts out of the way, also don't waste time trying to remove the unit with the starter installed, it gets really tight as you go down.
10-28-2016, 07:57 PM
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I agree it is tight, but mine came down with the starter on. I actually was able to remove the heat shield on my cat, and left the bumper on top. But taking that off allows for more cleaning to be done.