nile13

I'm planning on replacing the starter in my '95 C2, Looking at Bosch numbers, I'm completely and utterly confused.

There's SR0451n shown by a bunch of sellers

There's SR-0429-X-M14 shown by Pelican.

There's also a remanufactured starter for $100 from Autozone that might be a better solution, given the lifetime warranty (yeah, I know, labor's not free, but that sounds reasonable).

So, what say you?

helmet993

https://www.porschepartsnow.com/part...&siteid=215959

No affiliation but I'm surprised at the $100 price tag for a starter from a Porsche dealer.

nile13

That's not a starter, rather a crankshaft position sensor. I've seen this error in several places. For some reason they list it with a starter picture. But searching that part number lists "impulse sender" or a crankshaft position sensor, so that ain't it.

911PERVY

Manual car starter;

Porsche number 99660410702 outright purchase about $1100

Porsche number 9966041071X exchange unit about $900 plus core charge

Bosch exchange 0986016250

Kein_Ersatz

Make sure to replace the copper bushing in the transmission bell housing.

In many locals, there are starter rebuild shops, if you can have your car "off the road" for a week or 2.

Electric motor windings and solenoids are not Porsche specific ;-)

nile13

Pervy, that Bosh part number doesn't seem to be right for US. Looks liek they number things differently here.

As far as rebuilding - my indy will be doing teh swap and I'm leaving teh car with him for 3+ weeks. If he agrees to take it to a rebuild place... Though my experience buying reman starters and alternators has been better than getting them rebuilt. And, the way starter makes whizzing noises when hot, I'm not so sure it's not stripped gears or something similar. Weird metal noise when cranking and then no start. Does start after 4-5 tries. Never does that when cold, so it might just be crud inside the starter. I've seen another local car do that, cured by starter replacement.

BTW, that copper bushing. I've seen pics. Is it sold separately? What's the part number?

911PERVY

I'll check with the PET tomorrow and USA spec, dont think there will be a difference though

bruce7

Here is what I found in the Bosch online catalog:

http://www.bosch-automotive-catalog....3FautoLoad%3D1

Check out the 360 degree view. Pretty cool.

-bruce

nile13

I don't think there are difference in parts themselves. It's just odd that Bosch seems to have different part numbers in different parts of the world. Bruce's link, above, is also what I saw -it's SR0451N part number and Bosch number different than what you mention above. And different than Pelican part. So I'm utterly confused.

911PERVY

09 is Bosch exchange number, outright will not start 09

nile13

Now, this really became an urgent question. Is Bosch SR0451n the proper starter for a manual '95 993?

And, additionally, what's the part number of the copper bushing? And is it a separate part or will it always come with a starter (I'm going with new Bosch).

911PERVY

Copper bushes are in all new or recon Bosch units Ive seen, as you probably now know the starter number has changed 2 or 3 times and is now a 996 number

nile13

Yep, looks like the bushing will be part of the package. The number's however, are still a bit of mystery. So I'll be going with SR0451N unless told otherwise. It looks like most places reference that as a proper new Bosch starter here in US.