Hardback seats custom made $5.5k
#212
Nordschleife Master
It's fine to make a deposit nonrefundable, assuming you let the customer know upfront. It's the prerogative of the person selling goods or services. And the customer can decide if they are interested. What is not OK is to make it up or change it along the way.
I was really hopeful that I would get my money back. But at this point, by any definition, this individual stole my money. I sent him $4000 and never got an invoice for completed seats or my money back. He just kept it. That's theft. I'm exploring what I can do about it, given that it was an international wire transfer, there are records, etc.
Buyer be aware. This got worse along the way, to where now he will not even respond to emails and I do not think he has any intention of providing my money back or the seats. I would prefer the seats, that was the original intention. But at six months after deposit, and no indication of any progress or responsiveness, it started to feel like a sham. Now it feels like a crime.
I feel like an idiot for wiring so much money to a stranger but he was recommended and known in the rennlist|Porsche community.
I was really hopeful that I would get my money back. But at this point, by any definition, this individual stole my money. I sent him $4000 and never got an invoice for completed seats or my money back. He just kept it. That's theft. I'm exploring what I can do about it, given that it was an international wire transfer, there are records, etc.
Buyer be aware. This got worse along the way, to where now he will not even respond to emails and I do not think he has any intention of providing my money back or the seats. I would prefer the seats, that was the original intention. But at six months after deposit, and no indication of any progress or responsiveness, it started to feel like a sham. Now it feels like a crime.
I feel like an idiot for wiring so much money to a stranger but he was recommended and known in the rennlist|Porsche community.
#213
Not questioning your experience however seems like an anomaly given the 200+ posts to this thread with only one truly bad experience. I suggest you let an intermediary step in and advocate your position (refund or seats). Perhaps Opo who has purchased 1/2 dozen sets would be willing to help or possibly a RLer who lives in Germany could pay Waldemar a visit.
#214
Not questioning your experience however seems like an anomaly given the 200+ posts to this thread with only one truly bad experience. I suggest you let an intermediary step in and advocate your position (refund or seats). Perhaps Opo who has purchased 1/2 dozen sets would be willing to help or possibly a RLer who lives in Germany could pay Waldemar a visit.
#216
Rennlist Member
I worked in the seating industry for many years and his materials would not be anywhere close to $3,500. Not to mention, most of his materials are standard items with the exception of some unusual leather colors and the paint for the backs. 50% is ridiculous for standard colors...
Wonder if I can get those hardbacks shells sourced.....
#217
Rennlist Member
I am surprised nobody here in the States produces these or can start producing out of their existing shop. Not sure what the margin is but guessing not too bad.
#218
Nordschleife Master
#219
Nordschleife Master
i asked him what was the problem with Jonathan's seats ? He said he got hurt and was out for a while and he also moved to a bigger location , he asked me what should he do and I replied YOU NEED to refund the $ Jonathan asap , I also told him that anyways he could sell that set of seats to someone else with NO problem .
He replied this , NO problem I will refund his $ 100% and that was the last time I spoke to him , I also forward those emails to Jonathan and I'm pretty sure he didn't do what he said he was going to do .
Last edited by Opo; 02-19-2017 at 09:40 AM. Reason: Spelling
#221
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by Opo
+1 plus you guys have to remember that he builds lots of seats also for LA Dismantler and for people all over the world.. .
Again, what a mistake.
Raises price, demands completely unreasonable new terms of purchase and screws a reputable member on the busiest Porsche forum in the world while increasing his overhead by moving into a larger shop space.
He is obviously not moonlighting this. I don't see this lasting medium to long term regardless of "current high demand." Any new potential customer who googles him will see this thread pop up and think twice.
#223
Nordschleife Master
I wonder how many seats LAD sells if this every year before. Now the price is going to be $9K+ and what is the new demand going to be at that price? What new vendor(s) will potentially pop up at this new price and give it a go in the US?
Again, what a mistake.
Raises price, demands completely unreasonable new terms of purchase and screws a reputable member on the busiest Porsche forum in the world while increasing his overhead by moving into a larger shop space.
He is obviously not moonlighting this. I don't see this lasting medium to long term regardless of "current high demand." Any new potential customer who googles him will see this thread pop up and think twice.
Again, what a mistake.
Raises price, demands completely unreasonable new terms of purchase and screws a reputable member on the busiest Porsche forum in the world while increasing his overhead by moving into a larger shop space.
He is obviously not moonlighting this. I don't see this lasting medium to long term regardless of "current high demand." Any new potential customer who googles him will see this thread pop up and think twice.
plus im pretty sure he having a hard time finding parts that need to be purchased to. Holt the sport seats ..
some of this parts are hard to find .
#224
Drifting
Thread Starter
This shouldn't be rocket science for a good upholstery shop.
All you need is an original hardback sport seat torn down for a visual and the hardback part.
He is posting pics of completed seats on Instagram 2 days ago, so I'm guessing he's moving things along. However.... at his own pace.
All you need is an original hardback sport seat torn down for a visual and the hardback part.
He is posting pics of completed seats on Instagram 2 days ago, so I'm guessing he's moving things along. However.... at his own pace.
#225
Hello everyone!!!
Here is Waldemar. Sorry for my english.
Many of you have already contacted me by email or even bought seats. So I have read everything in peace and would like to explain my point of view.
First I have not received 4000, - $ as a down payment but about 2700, - €
I ask the deposit to make sure the customer converts the seats I then take. It costs a lot of time and money to build the seats so they are good.
From Respect before Opo, I returned the deposit. It also so far not before someone order canceled and was for me also quite new, very much stress and evil emails in my direction. I have no factory with 100 employees, very often the time is a problem.
For the future, I will retain the deposit upon cancellation of the order. I think if you have the seats configured with desired color and equipment you should be sure. I have always delivered the seats.
Here is Waldemar. Sorry for my english.
Many of you have already contacted me by email or even bought seats. So I have read everything in peace and would like to explain my point of view.
First I have not received 4000, - $ as a down payment but about 2700, - €
I ask the deposit to make sure the customer converts the seats I then take. It costs a lot of time and money to build the seats so they are good.
From Respect before Opo, I returned the deposit. It also so far not before someone order canceled and was for me also quite new, very much stress and evil emails in my direction. I have no factory with 100 employees, very often the time is a problem.
For the future, I will retain the deposit upon cancellation of the order. I think if you have the seats configured with desired color and equipment you should be sure. I have always delivered the seats.