Ed Hughes

Don't get hung up on the kinematic tool-a 993 can certainly be aligned the "old fashioned" way by someone who knows what they are doing, albeit at a higher price due to setup time.

pirahna

How much is higher price? All the shops in the Bay Area seem to charge between $280-350 with kinematic.

Ed Hughes

I was north of $550, probably a bit over $600- he modded some drop links to in my total, so can't recall what the setup ran-with corner balance at Jae Lee's shop. He is very astute at interpreting my likes. I think he's the best, and glad he is in San Diego.

Shtootgart

He didn't ask for a recommendation, he had the smart idea of creating a list.

As for Darin at Westend, KT or not, drive no further if he's in your area. As previous poster said, the proof is in the pudding and I can speak from experience and more than a year driving the car since he aligned it and put a new suspension on it--solid work. I'd be very surprised to see anything negative posted about his alignments by someone who had work done there.

FlyingDutchman

I had it done at custom alignment for $240 (120 per axle) a few months ago, very happy with the job they did. I also called JWE, their quote was in the $600/$700 range.

mstolo

If your coming all the way to Atlanta, I'd recommend Gran Turismo East. They just put on my PSS10's, adjusted the ride height and full alignment. Car runs great. They can do track/race setups or road. My son also takes his M3 there as well. Its not a glamorous shop, but they clearly know what they are doing. I'll add, all the work they did was quite reasonable.

http://www.granturismoeast.com/

bjornebo

Any suggestions for eastern WA state (something that doesn't require going to the Seattle area)?

Thanks

therossinator

I bet Nathan in Richland, WA would know. He puts on the 993 fest.

Martin S.

We see above, "993 guru's of this message board that actually have an understanding of this car's temperamental suspension."

The 993 LSA suspension actually is not that complex, is it?. It has the usually independent suspension adjustments, toe, camber, etc., and one more kinematic toe (KT), or as Jae Lee refers to it rear bump steer adjustment.

I had Jae set up my KT years ago and have not touched it since. He does an incredible job using dial gauges, etc…his protocol is a trade secret.

All I know, is when KT is improperly set, and you go into major deceleration mode, the rear end will hop around a bit, even cars with LSD will hop with a bad set up. With the KT properly set, along with the rest of the rear suspension parameters, no hop…simple as that.

Between alignments….I have not seen the need to do any tweaks to the eccentrics as would be indicated by poor handling and/or strange tire wear.

I have hard, that it is difficult to get a KT gauge to work on a car lowered to RS ride height….this can't be true,,,Porsche would not want to sacrifice the KT adjustment on their limited production 993 RS and 993 RS CS and the 993 RSR, and GT2 .

Lastly, Darin has been earning kudos for years. Somehow he manages without a KT bubble gauge.

AllMine

Please correct me if i am wrong.... I live down the road from Brumos and was wondering if it is possible or advisable to see if the race shop could work on our 993 alignments?
Curt

jpmbozzle

Any ideas in the NYC area

RealPolItiK

Case in point.

Ed Hughes

Jae doesn't use the gauge either, to my knowledge.

Funny, I go back to him on the 12th to reset after my engine drop late last year.

Kika

Was on vacation all weekend, so just getting back "online"

As stated, true, Darin does not use a KT tool for our 993. I have known Darin for a long time and fully trust his abilities.

As for pricing, I have found him to be quite competitive. I take my car where I am comfortable, everyone else has that same freedom.

In nearly 20 years of taking cars to Darin, I have always driven away as a satisfied customer. admittedly, my car is a street car, so I am not trying to shave seconds off my time to Starbucks either.

Bill Verburg

The factory KT gauge works fine on RS height cars, but lower not so much, when you get down really low you need the racing gauge that hangs from the rear calipers.

KT adjust castor, which allows toe to change as the wheel goes up and down, 0 toe change is uncomfortable a little is good, a lot not so much

take a trip up to Oxford Ct, Dan Jacobs shop