seats showcase: Recaro OEM hardback bucket sport shells- RS/ Speedster/ GT1/ GT2, etc
#151
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Why do the seat backs look different between some seats? Some have an extra set of X ribs across where your kidneys are. See below pics (from this thread) for example. Any ideas? Does it indicate replica vs original Porsche seats?
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Replica vs Genuine. Even the photos from the first page of the grey backed buckets are very suspect. metal crest on the back of seat looks out of place. I would not buy a set of these seats at such a high price without the trampoline/recaro stamp/correct shell and brackets.
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I have the genuine 964 RS seats and they have the extra X bracing. Part number 964.521.003.66 / 964.521.004.66.
964 Speedster seats are : 964.521.003.70 / 964.521.004.70
Found this info at: http://www.renn-list.com/Question-on..._10731883.html
"There are two different patterns, both are original Porsche. The seats with one less "X" worth of bracing are known as Speedster seats (which I own in my 968) and have a trampoline suspension system under the lower cushion and lack the 5th belt hole for a harness. These came in the 964 Speedster and 993RS.
The seats with the extra "X" are 964RS seats and have the 5th belt hole but no trampoline system underneath. These seats are generally considered a little more "hardcore" and less comfortable.
Personally I prefer the Speedster seats from an appearance standpoint in that they are a little less busy looking compared to the 964RS while not being as plain as standard Pole Position seats that you can buy new today. They are also slightly more comfortable with the trampoline system and some people have said they are a hair wider than 964RS seats. "
964 Speedster seats are : 964.521.003.70 / 964.521.004.70
Found this info at: http://www.renn-list.com/Question-on..._10731883.html
"There are two different patterns, both are original Porsche. The seats with one less "X" worth of bracing are known as Speedster seats (which I own in my 968) and have a trampoline suspension system under the lower cushion and lack the 5th belt hole for a harness. These came in the 964 Speedster and 993RS.
The seats with the extra "X" are 964RS seats and have the 5th belt hole but no trampoline system underneath. These seats are generally considered a little more "hardcore" and less comfortable.
Personally I prefer the Speedster seats from an appearance standpoint in that they are a little less busy looking compared to the 964RS while not being as plain as standard Pole Position seats that you can buy new today. They are also slightly more comfortable with the trampoline system and some people have said they are a hair wider than 964RS seats. "
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Example of extra X bracing on RS seats, offered by a (former) 993 Forum RLer, no affiliation: "FS: 993 Carrera RS/CS Sport Seat:"
993 Carrera RS/CS hardshell sport seat for sale. This is only ONE seat, which I used on the driver's side. I had the shell painted Porsche black, and it is upholstered with its original black leather. The leather is supple and has no tears, scuffs, or marks. It has all new correct Porsche factory mounting hardware, which costs $1,500 alone. It is a straight bolt-in replacement for the stock driver's seat. This seat is very similar to the Recaro pole position in size and support. You will feel much more connected with the chassis and the road with this seat, and I found it to be very comfortable even on long trips of four hours or more. I prefer it to my stock seat. And to my eyes, it looked great in a black interior, even though the driver and passenger seats were not matching. And if it really bothers you, single seats do come up for sale every now and then, often on European Ebay, so you could buy a second single and have a pair for much less than purchasing a matched set outright. I'm selling only because I sold the car I bought this for. Price is $2,500 or best offer, plus shipping.
ErikErik was looking for the 964 Speedster version of this seat. The 964 Speedster version came with the "trampoline" under the bottom seat cushion. Some early Carrera RSs may have had these seats as well until the factory ran out of stock. But the official 993 Carrera RS version of this seat does not have the "trampoline" seat bottom. The two different versions of this seat are shown in the Porsche European "Sitz Katalog," one with the trampoline for the 964 Speedster and the other without the trampoline for the 993 Carrera RS. My seat is the 993 Carrera RS version without the trampoline.
Attached is a picture of the back of the seat before it was painted. I will post another later today in its painted condition. The stickers were taken off in repainting, but I had them replicated exactly. They come with the seat. Thanks!
993 Carrera RS/CS hardshell sport seat for sale. This is only ONE seat, which I used on the driver's side. I had the shell painted Porsche black, and it is upholstered with its original black leather. The leather is supple and has no tears, scuffs, or marks. It has all new correct Porsche factory mounting hardware, which costs $1,500 alone. It is a straight bolt-in replacement for the stock driver's seat. This seat is very similar to the Recaro pole position in size and support. You will feel much more connected with the chassis and the road with this seat, and I found it to be very comfortable even on long trips of four hours or more. I prefer it to my stock seat. And to my eyes, it looked great in a black interior, even though the driver and passenger seats were not matching. And if it really bothers you, single seats do come up for sale every now and then, often on European Ebay, so you could buy a second single and have a pair for much less than purchasing a matched set outright. I'm selling only because I sold the car I bought this for. Price is $2,500 or best offer, plus shipping.
ErikErik was looking for the 964 Speedster version of this seat. The 964 Speedster version came with the "trampoline" under the bottom seat cushion. Some early Carrera RSs may have had these seats as well until the factory ran out of stock. But the official 993 Carrera RS version of this seat does not have the "trampoline" seat bottom. The two different versions of this seat are shown in the Porsche European "Sitz Katalog," one with the trampoline for the 964 Speedster and the other without the trampoline for the 993 Carrera RS. My seat is the 993 Carrera RS version without the trampoline.
Attached is a picture of the back of the seat before it was painted. I will post another later today in its painted condition. The stickers were taken off in repainting, but I had them replicated exactly. They come with the seat. Thanks!
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Following up recent posts' mention of trampolines:
...from eBay seller porschegrandtourismo's "Porsche 993 Speedster Sitz Dämpfungsmatte seat padding 96452175300 damping mat," for 579.00€ (~$675 USD); item #283088251083:
"Sie bieten auf zwei neue(2)Dämpfungsmatten für einen Porsche Speedster Sitz"
...from eBay seller porschegrandtourismo's "Porsche 993 Speedster Sitz Dämpfungsmatte seat padding 96452175300 damping mat," for 579.00€ (~$675 USD); item #283088251083:
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"Sie bieten auf zwei neue(2)Dämpfungsmatten für einen Porsche Speedster Sitz"
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From eBay seller deutschepartsuk's "Genuine Porsche 964RS RS Recaro lightweight leather bucket seats, triple grey," for £15,000 (~$19,500 USD); item #273125114745:
Very rare opportunity to purchase a pair of Genuine Porsche Recaro lightweight leather bucket seats
Dated December 1991, removed from a Porsche 964RS lightweight and stored for 10+ years
Seats as removed complete with runners and mounts and seat belt buckles
Can be viewed by appointment in Liverpool
There is some wear to the top edge of the drivers seat, see pictures
Price includes VAT @ 20% - VAT invoice will be issued to buyer
Originally Posted by eBay
Very rare opportunity to purchase a pair of Genuine Porsche Recaro lightweight leather bucket seats
Dated December 1991, removed from a Porsche 964RS lightweight and stored for 10+ years
Seats as removed complete with runners and mounts and seat belt buckles
Can be viewed by appointment in Liverpool
There is some wear to the top edge of the drivers seat, see pictures
Price includes VAT @ 20% - VAT invoice will be issued to buyer
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The shell with the additional X is the same as the one fitted to the 993RS Clubsport, however Clubsport seats were covered with flame resistant fabric, not leather. 993RS Touring seats were missing the additional X, had the trampoline base and were leather covered as in the picture. The advertised seat appears to be a hybrid Clubsport shell with leather cover.
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From eBayer seller avharmony's "RARE GENUINE PORSCHE 1994 964 SPEEDSTER RACING SEATS OEM BY RECARO!!! RS RSR RUF," for $26,595 USD; item #113231014124:
Incredibly rare Genuine PORSCHE 1994 964 Speedster Racing Seats!!!
OEM'd by RECARO for PORSCHE.
Includes original Genuine PORSCHE Sliders & Seatbelt Receptacles.
Perfectly Preserved Original Soft Supple Leather Black Surrounds & Tri-Grey Inserts.
Seat Shells are original paint in Guards Red.
Most Desirable Style with "Trampoline" Support Under Bottom Seat Insert Cushion.
Genuine Porsche Lightest Weight Factory Seating Option.
Seat Dimensions:
22" Shoulder width
35" Seat Back height
26" depth
Original Sticker under seats:
Left/Driver:
Part #: 964.521.003.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)
Right/Passenger:
Part #: 964.521.004.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)
Originally Posted by eBay
Incredibly rare Genuine PORSCHE 1994 964 Speedster Racing Seats!!!
OEM'd by RECARO for PORSCHE.
Includes original Genuine PORSCHE Sliders & Seatbelt Receptacles.
Perfectly Preserved Original Soft Supple Leather Black Surrounds & Tri-Grey Inserts.
Seat Shells are original paint in Guards Red.
Most Desirable Style with "Trampoline" Support Under Bottom Seat Insert Cushion.
Genuine Porsche Lightest Weight Factory Seating Option.
Seat Dimensions:
22" Shoulder width
35" Seat Back height
26" depth
Original Sticker under seats:
Left/Driver:
Part #: 964.521.003.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)
Right/Passenger:
Part #: 964.521.004.70
Dated: 17.06.93 (June 17, 1993)
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With regards to replicas, one has to perform due diligence before possibly purchasing, as the safety standards may not be as stringent as those required for factory-installed seats.
Here are new aftermarket seats for sale, supplied by fsr-sportauto: "Porsche 911 964 993 RS Sitze Sportsitze TurboS Sport NGT M002 M003 Leder schwarz."
Hahn GFK produces these new aftermarket seats.
Contact them if you're interested in pricing & shipping specifics.
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Another option: Cult-Werk.com's "Seats in racing style (for Porsche 911, Series 964 & 993)".
Originally Posted by kecho
Category: Interior
Price (no $ sign please): $3500
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part fits (select ONLY those which apply): 964
Location (Region): SoCAl
Item Condition: Brand New
SOLD, PENDING PAYMENT; I recently purchased a brand new pair of “Cultwerk” 964RS replica Recaro seats for my ‘92 Cup car, only to find an original set of Euro RS seats two weeks later. The fit, size, shape and leather are spot on to my original RS seats. These are not the suspension type found in the 964 Speedster, however they will fit any 964. The pair includes all the necessary hardware, brackets and sliders with the exception of the seat belt receivers (you can use yours). These seats are made in Austria and are absolutely beautiful and would enhance any 964. Mounted and used for only two weeks with barely 30 hours of seat time. My loss is your gain. I paid north of $4,300 for everything including shipping and taxes. Selling price is $3,500 plus shipping/insurance(if applicable). Please PM or email me if you’re interested. Thx, Chris
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From the "WTS Cult Werks 964/993 RS Replica Seats w/ Extras $$$" thread:
I purchased these on RL a short while ago but my plans have changed. The seats are exact replicas of 964/993 RS seats. These seats are in outstanding condition. No scatches, shiny spots or bunching on the front and no nicks chips or scratches on the back. I am confident saying they are as new. I want $2750. For that price I will include:
Seats with replica FIA and part number stickers
Side Mounts
Recaro Rails and Sliders
Seat Bases for use in 996/997
Brey Krause Adapters for use in place of the seat bases
Porsche 997 Black front seat belts
Porsche Seat Belt Receptacles
Local pick up in San Francisco or I can arrange delivery in the Bay Area. Please PM with questions. Thanks! Best Josh
I purchased these on RL a short while ago but my plans have changed. The seats are exact replicas of 964/993 RS seats. These seats are in outstanding condition. No scatches, shiny spots or bunching on the front and no nicks chips or scratches on the back. I am confident saying they are as new. I want $2750. For that price I will include:
Seats with replica FIA and part number stickers
Side Mounts
Recaro Rails and Sliders
Seat Bases for use in 996/997
Brey Krause Adapters for use in place of the seat bases
Porsche 997 Black front seat belts
Porsche Seat Belt Receptacles
Local pick up in San Francisco or I can arrange delivery in the Bay Area. Please PM with questions. Thanks! Best Josh