Expensive Lesson
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Expensive Lesson
A while back I had a tie rod fail at which point you know what that means (upgrade opportunity). I bit the bullet and upgraded to the RS units with uprights, new wheel bearings etc. The expensive lesson was finding out after NOT upgrading the old clunky and too large TRG bars that once the new factory RS bars were on a full alignment would again be required.
That said the transformation was significant and I'm really pleased with the new package...BUT, it does feel like the PSS9's are either not well suited for RS height/alignment etc or maybe time for a rebuild with 100k miles on them (all street). They are currently set to 4/4 and while taught the car still feels too softly sprung if that at all makes sense. Perhaps also I may just be hypersensitive to what's going on beneath me. That OR....after so many years on Yokohama AD08's it's the new set of Bridgestone S-04's I'm not happy with!? So - back to Yoko's or upgrade the PSS9's MCS lol!?!
That said the transformation was significant and I'm really pleased with the new package...BUT, it does feel like the PSS9's are either not well suited for RS height/alignment etc or maybe time for a rebuild with 100k miles on them (all street). They are currently set to 4/4 and while taught the car still feels too softly sprung if that at all makes sense. Perhaps also I may just be hypersensitive to what's going on beneath me. That OR....after so many years on Yokohama AD08's it's the new set of Bridgestone S-04's I'm not happy with!? So - back to Yoko's or upgrade the PSS9's MCS lol!?!
#3
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Changing them requires lowering the sub frame assembly. Bolting that backup in a way that maintains a zero tolerance setup is all but impossible. We knew this and efforts to mark exactly location etc were for not. At least that was my experience.
#5
Rennlist Member
Nice bit of work ..... and Kudos for your "No Fear" approach to the slippery slope - it will inspire the timid, and teach them a lesson on DIY tie rod repair!
Some of us approach the intimidating slope wearing crampons, ice picks, ropes, and a 'chute for good measure ----- others face downhill on racers blades wearing a jet pack, saying "fire in the hole"
Not that a push is needed, but try PS2's for tires
Some of us approach the intimidating slope wearing crampons, ice picks, ropes, and a 'chute for good measure ----- others face downhill on racers blades wearing a jet pack, saying "fire in the hole"
Not that a push is needed, but try PS2's for tires
#6
Banned
BUT, it does feel like the PSS9's are either not well suited for RS height/alignment etc or maybe time for a rebuild with 100k miles on them (all street). They are currently set to 4/4 and while taught the car still feels too softly sprung if that at all makes sense. Perhaps also I may just be hypersensitive to what's going on beneath me. That OR....after so many years on Yokohama AD08's it's the new set of Bridgestone S-04's I'm not happy with!? So - back to Yoko's or upgrade the PSS9's MCS lol!?!
Maybe set the shocks all 0/0 and then 9/9. If there is no difference in feel would assume the shocks are due for a rebuild.
#7
Rennlist Member
You don't need to drop the subframe to install swaybars... If you ran into interference with the bushing bolts, you can simply put a little divot into the hear exchanger box for enough clearance.
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#8
Instructor
RS sway bars install without altering any alignment settings. You can even thread the front one through on a 4 wheel drive car with no problem. Don't know why you are saying any different. I have done this myself on two different 993's with full suspension in place.
#10
RL Technical Advisor
Yep,.....this is true. While its a tad tricky, a little patience is rewarded and it saves the customer money (nothing wrong with that!!).
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Thanks guys. I only wish I could do this as DIY but I'm truly inept with a wrench. My Porsche exclusive tech who is factory trained and has been working on my 993 for 10 years couldn't get the TRG bars off and the RS ones on without that movement....I was right there the whole time. I guess there was another way we both didn't see?! Was not for lack of trying believe me. And yes we did front and rear with new bushings and links.
#12
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Perhaps the issue and his frustration was the getting the TRG bars off the car more than the RS bars on as he was lamenting them as too big and clunky throughout the process.
Regardless he'll be choked when I tell there was a way : )
Regardless he'll be choked when I tell there was a way : )
#13
Rennlist Member
I'll be happy to show you the technique if we ever cross paths, but if your tech is Ryan, formerly of RSR, then I'm sure he took the correct path.
he has forgotten more than many of us know.
after 100k miles, your coilovers probably do need a re-fresh.
Craig
he has forgotten more than many of us know.
after 100k miles, your coilovers probably do need a re-fresh.
Craig