redlightrich

Hello all and Merry Christmas!
After a lot of looking and sitting in a few, I decided I want an air cooled.

I am used to power, as I have had and currently own some fairly fast cars.

I have come across a real nice 1980SC, but I am afraid I will bore of its smaller power number, also it is a Cali car which I figured would have it plugged even more.
I live in NJ the land of perpetual winter, so even finding a nice car local is a trick. Most likely I will source from somewhere else.

What I am asking is which year will offer the best blend of creature comfort, fun to drive, power and reliability. I definatly do not want a cab, or early targa. I like the wider body of the turbo though.
I don't want to pay for the most collectible year, because I want to use it, so I would prefer one thats value is based on its usefulness. This does not mean I want a cheaper car. I expect to pay up for the right car. My budget is 50k give or take. I will probably add an exhaust, better shocks and tires, but that is about all. I do expect a clean lower miler for that though.
I know that manual is the preferred, but do the tips really stink? I looked at a 95 with a tip, and passed due to lack of papers and possible respray and tip. If everything else checked out, I may have bought the tip.

I was hoping to use this car almost daily, but not my DD. So, I want a more loaded vehicle.

I have been looking and searching, but to a newbee, it is confusing. There seem to be hundreds of models and sub models.

I realize this is a difficult question to answer, but I hoped that everyone would be a bit more generous with their advice for the holiday!!! ;-0)

Is there anywhere I can find the years, models, hp rating, tq rating, and weight all in a nice chart? This would be very helpful to me.

Thanks again and Merry Christmas!!!!!

Rich

matt777

This is the 993 forum. 993s are classic air cooled yet have modern safety and conveniences like air bags and ABS. That is nice for a dd. They are cheap compared to early 911s. I suppose late 70's early 80's vintage 911s will be the least expensive. If you're looking for a 993 under $30k that is decent its going to be tough but not impossible depending on what mileage you're looking for.

ca993twin

If what you crave is more HP and a wide body, save up and get what you really want; a 993 Twin Turbo. They command a small premium over the "lesser" normally aspirated wide bodies (C2S, C4S), but offer well over a 100 HP bump with few downsides; the maintenance is about the same for either. Really.

tcsracing1

You want a 993 Turbo.

For $50k you might find a 1991 964 turbo if you are lucky but not a 993 turbo for that kind of money.

Perhaps if you are on a budget, you could look for a 996 turbo which is in your price range.

Ed Hughes

Don't get hung up on California cars-there is no difference.

96PCarrera993mg

Welcome to the club! If you want air cooled your best bet is the 993. I had a 1981 911SC and it was a great Porsche but was lacking technology, and the mechanical CIS fuel injection was so so. My '96 993 is a California car and no problems what so ever, like Ed said above "no difference". Good luck with your search, you may want to look here for cars: https://rennlist.com/forums/for-sale...assifieds-136/

c4consult

Try a 993 it may be fast enough.

NYC993

There is winter in NJ? A couple months of cold with some snowflakes is not much of a winter.
In any event, many 911 owners don't drive their cars in winter months.

You can start your research here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911

It would help to know what you mean by "fairly fast cars" Scion FRS fast or E63AMG fast?

chsu74

Or add a supercharger to a NA motor

saneproductions

Drive the cars. I drove and 87 and 91 and when I drove my 95 C4 I knew it was the one. The older cars were not well maintained and the 95 had everything fresh, so the difference was huge. 993s are very fast and have a great feel.

justin-in-athens

964 turbo!....Gees easy question.

SOS

Seems like these are rapidly increasing in value! Get one now while you still can. I want one too.

95carrera

What you seem to want in a P car is a 996tt and not a 993. Drive a couple 993's, beautiful, well built but not real fast.

vincer77

993 na or turbo is an excellent choice. Best of the old and New World.

pcarrera993

Merry Christmas Rich. Lets see winter really starts around last week of Nov in NJ and two days ago in Dec it was almost 70 degrees. Then we have Jan, Feb, and March which can get pretty damn cold. Its not so bad I would say. There are quite a few very nice 993 samples in the Northeast and there is a consignment dealer in Paramus that has 993's. Like always recommended, if you find one you like test drive it and then if you are satisfied with your own inspection have a thorough PPI done by a reputable shop. I think your budget will get you a nice 993 C4S and possibly C2S. I would also look at 996 TT. Keep us posted.


Cheers,
Tito