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Old 04-30-2013, 06:31 PM
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put it on ebay starting at 27k, and see what happens. 2k difference for WB, lol all day..
Old 04-30-2013, 08:07 PM
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Can't help with how much its worth but it is a very nice car!
Old 04-30-2013, 08:19 PM
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Looking through the thread, the consensus seems to be high 20s or just over the 30k mark. The caveat of course is that the top end work will need to check out.

Not to derail the thread, but the 993 market is a weird one to me. On the one hand, the everyday drivability of a Porsche is supposed to be its #1 asset. OTOH, put over 100k miles on a 993 and suddenly the market is afraid of it and the car commands $5-15k less than it would with 60k miles on the odometer. Aside from the top end (which most 100k+ mi cars have addressed), there aren't many other ticking time bombs on a 993. So what the heck gives? Does the contradiction seem silly to anybody else?
Old 04-30-2013, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Its not. You can get the for about $850. Install is $400-$500, max.
I just paid $800 for window, $50 for seal. $200 install.
Old 04-30-2013, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by asofine
Looking through the thread, the consensus seems to be high 20s or just over the 30k mark. The caveat of course is that the top end work will need to check out.

Not to derail the thread, but the 993 market is a weird one to me. On the one hand, the everyday drivability of a Porsche is supposed to be its #1 asset. OTOH, put over 100k miles on a 993 and suddenly the market is afraid of it and the car commands $5-15k less than it would with 60k miles on the odometer. Aside from the top end (which most 100k+ mi cars have addressed), there aren't many other ticking time bombs on a 993. So what the heck gives? Does the contradiction seem silly to anybody else?
No, I agree the 993 market is hard to fathom.

Although, I think condition is key. We've seen 100k+ NB examples fetch 35k. that were mod-ed and sorted. There was a silver one that went not long back. It did have hardbacks, which I concede help, a lot.

I've only owned for not even 6 months, (but was looking at the market a year before that) already my opinion has softened considerably towards high mile sorted cars. Including the aforementioned silver car. I think there will always be a market for ultra low mile examples, but there is also a lot of equity in getting a car from someone like the op as opposed to a "wearer-outer".
Old 04-30-2013, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by asofine
So what the heck gives? Does the contradiction seem silly to anybody else?
The heck is that there is accident history with this car and the other one has a clean car fax. I don't see a contradiction here. Where is it?
Old 04-30-2013, 11:57 PM
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I like your car and the caliper! In Quebec, I'd say your car would be worth $38k. 993 for sale are more than $30k. For your information, a 1998 is for sale at $57k with 90k miles.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:02 AM
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If I understand well from other posts, it's better not to invest money in your car with non OEM or steering wheel, seats, body kit, etc since you don't recuperate that money???

Is it better to do the minimum, the regular maintenance, since anyways your car will be worth $30k?

Just asking...
Old 05-01-2013, 12:43 AM
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But there's accident damage and then there's accident damage. Huge difference between a dinged fender and a collision that bent the unibody or required cutting and welding. A dinged fender that was properly repaired or replaced should barely affect the value.
Old 05-01-2013, 01:18 AM
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Don't understand the big hoopla with the mileage. Averages to 8750 per year. And yes, these cars are made to be driven. I drive mine every day. Has 156k on the clock and drives excellent. Looking at the interior you would think it only had 30k on her. Hell I've seen cars with 30k with worn driver side seat bolsters and mine are still perfect. These cars are made to go for a long time.

I think your car looks great! I would put the original seats back in if you still have them and sell the RS America sports.
Old 05-01-2013, 09:15 AM
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I found 4 993 '97 in Canada. Prices are going from $44k to $67k, but they all have low mileage and maybe no accident. The higher mileage and accident would lower your price but there's a limit...

Try to sell your car in Canada to get 10 more $k!
Old 05-01-2013, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by asofine
Looking through the thread, the consensus seems to be high 20s or just over the 30k mark. The caveat of course is that the top end work will need to check out.

Not to derail the thread, but the 993 market is a weird one to me. On the one hand, the everyday drivability of a Porsche is supposed to be its #1 asset. OTOH, put over 100k miles on a 993 and suddenly the market is afraid of it and the car commands $5-15k less than it would with 60k miles on the odometer. Aside from the top end (which most 100k+ mi cars have addressed), there aren't many other ticking time bombs on a 993. So what the heck gives? Does the contradiction seem silly to anybody else?
Its not weird at all. Sure, the cars can be used daily. But, as with every other car in the world, when you put miles on cars, they tend to wear out. Interiors get worn, paint gets chipped, engines lose power, suspension bushings wear, rubber hardens, cracks etc.

100k miles is still a lot and at that point, stuff will need to be replaced, regardless of what the owner tells you.

Tiime bombs? maybe not. Steady stream of replacement parts, absolutely (I'll now wait for whomever to tell me they have 30 gazillion miles without a single repair, but that is not universal)
Old 05-01-2013, 10:20 AM
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In response to Quadcammer. All major wear items have been replaced. I think that is the point that people are trying to make.

You can buy an 80,000 mile car that has all original suspension, no major engine work, worn interior, worn paint, worn brakes, and marked wheels or you can buy one that is over 100,000 miles where most of these items have already been taken care of and you get all the modifications and maintenance for 1/4 of what the owner paid.
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Originally Posted by NP993
But there's accident damage and then there's accident damage. Huge difference between a dinged fender and a collision that bent the unibody or required cutting and welding. A dinged fender that was properly repaired or replaced should barely affect the value.
I would think that any car that has been in an accident regardless of seriousness affects the value. Documentation of the accident and repair may ease potential buyers' minds but that history is coming with the car.

Originally Posted by vwvortex123
You can buy an 80,000 mile car that has all original suspension, no major engine work, worn interior, worn paint, worn brakes, and marked wheels or you can buy one that is over 100,000 miles where most of these items have already been taken care of and you get all the modifications and maintenance for 1/4 of what the owner paid.
You are comparing apples and oranges. What is a fully sorted 80K mile car worth compared to one which needs a bit of work. Market has valuations for that too which gets quantified with a good PPI.

Many people here have basically agreed that you have a well sorted high mile 993 and it is worth just that. People also think that your return on all the work done is a bit more than your thinking of $0.25 on the dollar. Probably somewhere between $0.25 and $0.50..
Old 05-01-2013, 10:34 AM
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Very nice looking car GLWTSIYSAS.

You will get lots of great sounding numbers here but we're a biased lot.

These posts always remind me of the reverse tire kicker, you know...those guys who show up to have a look at a car you have for sale but have no intentions of buying. Instead of the 'what's it worth?' posts, a 'what would pay me today?' post would give you a better idea of what you could get in a sale If You're Serious About Selling.

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