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Old 02-08-2013, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bobt993
Peter,

You def do not have the cams backwards because that would be apparent when you go to add the PS gear back on right side 4-6 bank. I would not run this until you have checked it a bit further. It would be really depressing to damage it when your so close to getting it right.
Totally agree.
Old 02-08-2013, 06:55 PM
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You havn't even had it past 2,000 yet?

Your putting yourself through a lot of undue stress, I wouldn't expect it to run any different then it is.

Drive it hard, come back and post a smile.
Old 02-08-2013, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CalvinC4S
You havn't even had it past 2,000 yet?

Your putting yourself through a lot of undue stress, I wouldn't expect it to run any different then it is.

Drive it hard, come back and post a smile.
pretty easy to suggest when its not your $1x,xxx on the line
Old 02-08-2013, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
pretty easy to suggest when its not your $1x,xxx on the line
I can't help with any real information...but this definitely looks like a good for me to jump in....so here it is....+1
Old 02-08-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
pretty easy to suggest when its not your $1x,xxx on the line
Just trying to help as I have experienced this on many, if not all 3.6 builds. Watching The video and knowing he only went as deep as the heads, I again say drive it!

The lifters are not pumping up on idle oil pressure.
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Cams reground, rockers refurb'd, valves reground also?

I tried to catch up with everything in the thread so apologies if I missed something but...

There are oversized lifters available for rebuilds.
Not sure what you have installed or what was taken off of the cams, valves...
Old 02-08-2013, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CalvinC4S
Just trying to help as I have experienced this on many, if not all 3.6 builds. Watching The video and knowing he only went as deep as the heads, I again say drive it!
This is an encouraging note and I certainly believe and appreciate what you are saying could be the case. Perhaps you are right. However, as much as I want to drive it and enjoy it, I am not in a hurry.
Old 02-08-2013, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CalvinC4S
The lifters are not pumping up on idle oil pressure.
+1
Old 02-08-2013, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Cams reground, rockers refurb'd, valves reground also?

I tried to catch up with everything in the thread so apologies if I missed something but...

There are oversized lifters available for rebuilds.
Not sure what you have installed or what was taken off of the cams, valves...
1. Cams regound. Yes
2. Rockers Refurbed. Yes.
3. Intake valves reground. Yes.
4. Exhaust valves reground. No. New installed but I think they are ground anyway.
5. New rod bearings and bolts also.

Steve W. advised me as to which lifters to get. They were the 'standard' ones: 993-105-141-05.

I spoke to Dima Elgin about the regrind process when I had the cams done. I was curious as to what it would do to the overall geometry of the set up. His answer was that as long as the rockers are redone everything will align properly. It would seem to me that if you remove material on one end that the other end would be that much farther away from the valve. Anyone?
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Originally Posted by NP993
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What pressure is required and for how long?
Old 02-08-2013, 10:53 PM
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Calvin might be right, now that i think back to when i replaced all my lifters 2 years ago, i idled the car a couple of times for 20 mins or so, and the noise didnt stop. At that point i thought what do i have to lose so i took it out for about 15 mins and drove it HARD, magically noise stoped as the lifter must of finally filled with oil.
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Why not try some of that quiet lifter stuff? I know it works in MBZ and BMW's.
Old 02-09-2013, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Vorsicht
1. Cams regound. Yes
2. Rockers Refurbed. Yes.
3. Intake valves reground. Yes.
4. Exhaust valves reground. No. New installed but I think they are ground anyway.
5. New rod bearings and bolts also.

Steve W. advised me as to which lifters to get. They were the 'standard' ones: 993-105-141-05.
Thats correct. The valve lengths were corrected to ensure compatibility with the standard ones. This procedure keeps one from having to buy the uber-expensive oversize ones.

New valves require grinding as well as length corrections and both were completed.

I spoke to Dima Elgin about the regrind process when I had the cams done. I was curious as to what it would do to the overall geometry of the set up. His answer was that as long as the rockers are redone everything will align properly. It would seem to me that if you remove material on one end that the other end would be that much farther away from the valve. Anyone?
As above,.....
Old 02-09-2013, 12:32 PM
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Did you have a chance to located the sound? (I am travelling right now so my postings will be erratic - was hopefully that between checking it got solved... !)

Cheers,

Mike
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Originally Posted by Vorsicht
I'm getting 1 on the gauge at idle and increasing pressure with higher rpms into the 4 -5 range. No codes or warning lights.
Originally Posted by Mike J
Oil pressure is a red-herring I think, or might be a side product of the actual cause, but I agree with Alex, check with an external gauge.
I followed this thread sporadically mostly on my phone, did this get addressed?

I just drove my car,, and as a datapoint --

Up until minute three the pressure gauge was pegged at 5. After that it started to drop a bit, and until minute seven was at ~3.5.

First time it dropped below 3 was at the ten minute mark.

All observations were at idle (of course), though I drove the car right after starting it.

OAT was ~40F. 15W-50 oil.

Hope you get it resolved soon, good luck.

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