9m93RS Clubsport #5 from USA origin Carrera 4
 

Into 9m drives a 1996 993 Carrera 4 USA origin car; roll forward 3 months and the next 9m93RS Clubsport will be driving out of the door.

Final Specification:
Body, exterior: 993RS Clubsport spoiler package, rear wiper delete
Body, structure: Carpet & sound deadening delete, 9m M003 Clubsport integral roll cage, RS chassis reinforcement
Interior trim: Alcantara dash & RS door panels, Recaro XL seats, Schroth harnesses
Engine: 9m 3.75 litre, Billet heads, cams, etc.
Transmission: RS LWF, 2wd conversion, close ratio gear set, RS syncros, Carbonetic LSD
Suspension: KW Clubsport, RS top mounts & arms, GT2 uprights, stiff axle kit
Brakes: 993RS 4 channel with ABD, 993RS calipers front & rear
Wheels: Rays/Volks 8 & 10 x 18"

can't wait to see the final result of your work...:bowdown:

Subscribed.

Ken

I'm on-board!

Damn it. Just when I was getting back into porn.

Bumpers off, engine out, seats pulled, carpets on the way...

Subscribed... This looks like too much fun!

Oh goodie! Subscribed.

Thanks to the gods .... man, it's been awhile, huh? So .. looks like a factory Turquoise Blau car then? Will we be staying with that? :jumper:

Yes it will my Ole Friend, it definitely will.

Sawheeeet! Great combination with the u.s. vin .. meaning it's re-importable in the future with minimal effort ... if somebody so desired. It's kind of a big deal when you think about it .. :thumbsup:

Subscribed. Is it going back to US?

4wd gearlever and driveshaft have to go....

This is going to be cool!!!

hawt!!
me wanty! :)

subscribed :jumper:

Should be a fun show. :biggulp:



Emerald

Awesome, I love these builds! They have inspired my car in many ways.

yesss..

Waiting.........

Pull the carpets out with the sound deadening and you are left with sticky foam everywhere. Only one way to remove it and that is by washing with solvent; unleaded petrol works, as does bodyshop panel wipe which is what Neil is using here. Note the windows removed and fan inside the car to keep the interior vented.

We also have to de-bracket the back of the car, as per RS Clubsport, which is done with the aid of a spot weld drill.

Interestingly we discovered an old weld repair under the left hand trim, probably a rectification for a broken fixing of the Varioram vacuum tank support.

x 993

The detail is amazing. Right down to color matched lift and engine jack.

It's also impressive that the cars interior is mostly stripped, the engine and trans are out, all before the water drops sitting on the car have had time to dry.

I can't wait to see how this one leaves the shop.

It rains (a lot) in the UK and you've obviously not seen the condition of our workshop roof! ;)

Really fascinating to see the bare interior! Thanks for enlightening us on this project! Subscribed!

In between other jobs the lads drop onto the car to clean more glue from the interior, here Richard is working on the sill carpet residue. The back end is looking clean now and certainly good enough to begin the preparation for the roll cage installation.

At the front end Mark has been busy removing the wiring loom. This was never part of the original brief, but after a discussion with Marc we decided to pull the loom because it reduces the risk of damage to the loom & trim whilst also making it much faster to weld and paint the cage and interior panels. In for a penny.....

We got to the bottom of the weld "repair" in the left rear inner wheel arch. Turns out that the car was Porsche's prototype Carrera 4 for the US market so had been used to develop the installation of the emissions components to comply with US smog. The welding was due to the fitting of a large active carbon canister inside the wheel well - which we think is the same as the Boxster unit from around the same year. Looks like Porsche were not too concerned over the long term corrosion issues in the US? Not to worry, it's just another half-finished job done somewhere else for 9m to sort out properly..... ;)

Well ... I feel better now! I guess Beverly Hills Porsche was in good company ... :evilgrin:

Just as my recent interest in the 993 board began to quickly decline, this
thread pops up...Good show, thanks for posting the progress pics!! :cheers:

That was your 993rd post - which is a somewhat interesting coincidence.

Wiring loom removal - 9m style.

Mark took a break from his usual engine building duties today to enjoy the satisfaction of pulling the loom out of the shell and finishing the glue removal. If only the cars go back together as easily as they come apart....

And the result is the complete wiring harness on the workshop floor ready to be stripped and converted to RS specification.

Are you going to retain the OBD2 compatibility?

Switch to Motec?

Makes me want to rip out my 993tt now

Nice thread:thumbup:

Jeeezusmaryandjoseph ... is that factory seam sealer in there? You can see the ham-mit finger grooves in that stuff!! :eek:
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Yu got it JP, this car has never been repaired so what you see is what Helmut did on his Monday morning shift.

Another "I want to sell my house, kids, dogs, wife" Post. AWESOME, I cant wait

I really admire you folks at Ninemeister. However, it also comes with a healthy dose of frustration since I cannot afford your magic without a nice bank heist as a part of my plan :bowdown::banghead::bowdown:

That's fine, just include not getting caught into the scheme and I'm sure we would be soon talking to each other! The alternative strategy is to keep buying lottery tickets, but that seems not to be working quite as well as expected. ;)

Glue, glue, Barney McGlue, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub.....

The quest continues, the lads dropping onto the shell in between other jobs to continue with the quest for a non-stick interior. Before anyone asks, yes, the lads completely hate this job but they would rather be employed than not. There is no immediate pressure to complete since the jig is currently tied up with another fabrication project and the cage tubing is yet to arrive, however once everything is here we will be more than ready for the welding phase to begin.

I wonder how many people are confused by that ?

I think most people have a Brit friend or 2...Now excuse me whilst I go have a Pony & Trap.

Remember Morph?

Oh .. this is a factory sunroof delete car? wow .. did I miss that earlier?
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I glossed over that minor detail as well.

Sooo, are you going to do the door check strap update while there??? (J/K) Totally overwhelmed when I saw the wiring harness come out. Too much to remember. Good luck with reinstall.

It comes from a childrens stop-motion puppet show called Trumpton:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpton
The boys in the fire brigade had a roll call and on every episode their Captain called out "Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble, Grub".

Sad really that something I remember from around 40 years ago is the first thing that pops into my head when making a post. Probably makes a change though for us Brits to confuse our distant cousins, rather than the other way around...?

Maybe we all walk around with our eyes closed and see what we want to see?

Me? I'm imagining that Marc did not insist the loom be pulled and that we had not blown 30 hours getting the glue off the inside panels!

Oh boy, some winter fun. Subscribed.

Same side of the pond as you, and understood. Just made me wonder what the other guys would think.

That's the beauty of retaining lt/wt carpet, it looks great when you have bare paint too though

Ok, this thread needs a bump and I have a question. How are 993RS seat belt retractors covered? Is there some special small cover/box that the factory produced just to finish off the rear interior and covered in RS carpet?

Subscribed - looking forward to seeing how this turns out. At some point I will try to visit you to get a bit of tune-up.

Thanks and regards,

David

yes,
993.555.327(8).00

they only come covered w/ black carpet

wow! 993 tubs are expensive to strip with the glue and electrontics!

lovin' the build so far!

Ha. Thanks Bill, for the life of me, I couldn't find a photo of one anywhere .. so I made an educated guess.

^^^ There it is, simple and light, just like I thought .. thanks again.

Happy weekend folks!!!

Very pleased to say that the fabrication work on the next 9m93 Speedster S is nearing completion so we have finally loaded the 9mRS tub onto one of our Celette jigs and now have work underway in the fab shop.

First stage was front wing removal, seam welding & reinforcement of the strut tops, preparation for RS cutout switch & screen wash bottle, full interior de-bracket and anchors for the 6 point harness seat belts. Obviously all this work is easier to do without the cage installed so we're making hay whilst the sun is shining. Cage fabrication should start towards the end of next week.

I should also mention that the covers on the outside of the car are to protect the paint since it is not scheduled for a respray.....

That is an interesting call.

So why shouldn't you use a water pressure washer to remove all the glue and foam ?
About the re spray in for a penny?

Subscribed.. Great thread! Will you be rebuilding the motor + trans?

Wait and see! ;)

Another great build.
It took me awhile to figuar out whats up with the brake fluid bracket on the wrong side :)

Apart from the fact that it would take weeks to dry the shell out before painting, pressure alone would not remove the glue, you have to use solvents to dissolve it. There is no other way - believe me we've tried everything!


All donations will be gratefully received, so if you and 9,999 other friends all want to send £1 each we'll be on it straight away.....

9M, someone here in the Uk told me they had a dry ice treatment that removed all traces of glue in a few hours, not cheap though.
There was apparently a feature in 911 &PW or one of the Uk Porsche magazines.

What seats were in there when it pulled in?

Recaro SPG large which are being refitted; furthermore the drivers side seat mounts in the chassis are going to be lowered to gain additional headroom.

I would definitely be interested to learn more, especially if the system could also remove paint?

Owen is still nibbling away at the fabrication work:

RS battery cutout switch support & cable stop welded in on LH chassis leg.

RS tow ring reinforcement on lower front panel:

Carrera 2 gear lever console welded into tunnel:

RS inner seat belt anchors & inside tunnel Carrera 2 gearbox lateral stay mountings:

RS 6 point seat belt anchors in floor. Plates obviously weld in from the underside, on the second photo Owen has used a spacer ring, washer & bolt to hold the plate up to the floor whilst he welds it from underneath.

Fascinating build!!! So unusual that the interior will be painted and the exterior left alone. Following the build, will this car stay in Europe or make it's way back to North America?

Cryo cleaning a 993C4S

Subscribed! Great work Colin.

Apologies for my leave of absense, all caused by being away on a family ski holiday for a week then coming back to an exceptionally taxing week at Ninemeister. The good news is that whilst I was away playing Franz Klamer, Owen and the lads kept themselves busy chopping up a few lengths of old gas pipe and knocking them into a perfect replica of the M003 roll cage..... ;)

And a few details of the welding and platework:

The dash receives special attention. A custom under dash strut is being fettled to be welded in between the two A-post tubes, whereas further up the airbag support has been removed and the dash itself is being converted back to accept the glove box in its place.

One final detail in the luggage compartment is the addition of the ABS control module bracket on the right hand chassis leg. Porsche added this to raise the height of the module to protect it from damage should the shape of the boot floor be "compromised" in an accident.

Seam welding under the floorpan now finished including seat belt anchors & Carrera 2 gearbox front strut mounts; front jacking points straightened and re-welded; zip wheel being used to feather out the underseal in preparation for repainting.

Engine work is now underway in parallel to the body conversion.

Mark has already stripped and cleaned all the engine parts, now the task of putting it all back together begins starting with the crank and new connecting rods. Mark coats the bearings with red engine lube before assembly; ARP rod bolts are covered with graphite based high pressure lubricant for the torque proceedure. Oil pump & layshaft goes into the case first, followed by the assembled crank onto the new main bearings; rear main seal is fitted and aligned before the top half of the case is fitted.

Those con-rods are works of art. Love it.

Colin -

Why isn't Mark wearing a mask when installing those rods? - Just teasing. Sorry but I couldn't help it. You guys work at a whole higher level of standards than most shops. I've got to find something to pick on!

I just love your work. Really wish you guys lived on my side of the pond. If so, I'd be there observing as much as I could while, hopefully, not getting in the way.

Marc G.

Thanks, all kind words appreciated. As for location, you are not the only one who is sorry that we can't clone ourselves - especially given the March snow and ice we had to endure in the UK yesterday! My old bones would definitely fare better with all year warmth.... ;)

what rev limit and hp/torque peaks do you anticipate for this engine?

Bill,
As shown on the dyno graph, the 9m 993 +3 engine is currently tuned to peak power of over 350hp at just over 6500rpm but is still making good power at 7000, hence the bottom end is primarily being upgraded with the new rods as a future proofing exercise to allow safe over-revs to 7500.

Future proofing is the secondary consequence of the rebuild, with the Motec M600 already installed a 400hp upgrade with 9m race cams & 9m ITB system would be a straightforward step up, as shown on another customer's 993 graph. Incidentally this 400hp 9m Clubsport race engine package is running with standard 993 Bischoff heat exchangers, cat bypasses and stock silencers.

Thanks Colin,

I was curious about the rod change w/o using the GT3 pump and GT3 crank & possibly GT3 rods

I love reading about your projects!

Looking good Colin...

Couple of questions on your engine rebuild:

Do you install the RMS dry?
I notice there is no sealant on the engine case with the crank installed, do you put the sealant on the other half then mate together?

Bill,
My first race engine was a 993RS motor on stock crank, Carillo rods, 9m 103mm P&C set with 9m Billet heads and ITB set up. On stock headers that engine ran for three seasons, making 425-435hp on our dyno. The peak power was 7300rpm and I took the engine to 7800 without an issue. For the last season I increased the rpm limit to 8000rpm and on stripdown deduced that I was on the edge of oil flow at the big ends. For this reason I consider the stock crank to be good for 7800rpm but no more.

Obviously with the GT3 bottom end the engine could be spun much higher (given suitable rods & pistons) but we have to look at the cost to performance benefit of such a change given the limited budget already in place. IF (and it's a big if) the customer had the necessary funds and IF he was 100% committed to running ITB and race cams and IF he wanted an 8000+rpm limit, I agree that this would probably be the optimum choice.

Mark has covered the crankshaft with clear grease to fit the RMS.

As suspected, Loctite 574 sealant is applied to the top half of the case only as it is a lot easier to fit the crank into the dry half and clean off any oil residue with brake cleaner than it is to re-apply the sealant and wipe it off the lubricated crank.

Perfect, Thanks Colin.

Colin, love the detailed photo's of your builds, gives me food for thought.

In the lower photo of your post #77, the welding is very close to one of the glued in cover plates for the many round body shell dipping holes, would I be right is saying these are steel and not plastic?

Yea, those plugs on the floor of the unibody are metal, not plastic.

Hi Colin,

a little off topic question:

what kind of 993 engine would you build for a street car /DD car (half city / half road-highway use)? What would be the estimated HP, torque?

thanks for your answer

Arpad

The key choice to tuning an aircooled 911 engine is the RPM limit which will is the main limit the hp that you can achieve. For a 993 street engine running below a 7000 rpm limit with the stock intake (non-VR or VR) and exhaust system, a 9m billet head/sports cam/remap combination will see 340-350hp on a 3.6 engine or 350-360 on a 3.75 litre engine. This is the basic specification of the engine above and is pretty much the limit to what can be achieved with conventional tuning.

That said, we're now working on an unconventional performance solution which might, if things go to plan, re-write what is thought possible from a roadgoing aircooled engine.

Well then, please keep us in the loop if said plan comes to fruition.

:bowdown:

:corn:

The following morning Mark had the crankcases together so now the engine is ready for the pistons & cylinders. I'm going to be machining the pistons to change the compression slightly, once that is done the motor will soon come together.

Welding complete, underbody is prepared for painting.

We will be using a conventional etch prime, primer, base coat & laquer process, so no corners cut even where you can't see it.

Airbag delete panel and cage cross brace now welded into dash.

The rear quarter panel corner supports were removed to check the chassis legs for rust; sure enough some was found on both sides but only the nearside required a repair. Etch primer was brushed over the exposed metal, the supports themselves are being repainted.

Spray sealer......

Etch primer...

... primer.....

... base coat ....

Front wings prepared, then onto the car for final fit and alignment with bonnet.

and for the non-Europeans:

Front fenders prepared, then onto the car for final fit and alignment with the hood.

;)

Again extra to planned we discovered corrosion in the front screen aperture so have bare metalled the area and will etch/prime/paint as usual. Unfortunately there is also a little bit of rust creeping forward in the corners so we'll have to do a small "blow in" in these areas in addition to fully repainting the aperture.

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Anyone have the part # for these speed nuts?

Nuts 999.507.467.00 at £2.98 each
Screws 999.450.007.02 at £1.16 each

Looks like a real fun project Colin! Still wish I had the $ to send you my car for a speedster conversion!

Indeed, thanks for the sentiment. Given the number of Rennlisters who think the same way, maybe it's time you all got together to form a lottery syndicate? Would be a fun to see a production line run of 100 9m93 Speedster S! ;)

Good idea! Not sure it would be the same if there were 100 of them though. Honestly, I have 7 and 8 y/o daughters and they LOVE to ride in the back. If I made mine a speedster now they would kill me. I already sold the early hot rod (see sig) and they wont let me forget about that one.

Todays jobs:
Spray and brush sealer under wing to body joint and arches.
Clean door seal gulley for paint (to fix paint burn where the cage was welded).
Fully clean and de-grease interior ready for etch primer.
Prepare front compartment for paint, feather out existing paint edges.

nice, I had the rust at the window corners on mine repaired this past winter too front and back.

When you go this far into a project like this do you guys add the additional front bulkhead reinforcement panel that the RS used?

Already in there Bill, there's a photo a few pages back.

I don't know how I missed that

I also like the simple rollbar mounts for the 3 point belts

Colin, I may have missed it but why the seam welding in this area?

The factory spot weld the tow-eye reinforcement plate to the front panel before welding the front panel into the tub. When you retro-fit the reinforcement you can spot weld the top effectively but not the bottom, hence Owen chose to seam weld the plate to ensure a full strength join.

Shot a few photos today of Owen and Neil doing the final preparation of the boot aperture and interior areas in time for first paint tomorrow.

Detail shots of the aluminium filler used to block the rust pits in the corners of the windscreen aperture; the PU sealant bead on the front wing to inner wing joint which will be painted over when we paint the front compartment.

Hi Colin,

What are the two tubes, visible in the 7th photo of post #104, extending beyond the tunnel?
Thanks.

E-Brake cables if I'm not mistaken.

Nollie is correct, they are the integral steel guide tubes for the two handbrake cables.

Thanks. That makes sense.

Did you guys reinforce the shock towers in any way besides additional welding of the seams?

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Yup. ;)

Big day in 9m Panelcraft today. First job was to clear out the booth and prepare the shell for painting.

Almost forgot about this detail. The owner is 6'5" tall so we have lowered the drivers seat mountings on the floorpan to gain additional helmet clearance to the cage (and lower the CoG for improved handling).

Take one roll of masking paper and several rolls of tape, Then get vacuum cleaner and airline to bblow/suck out debris from all the cavities. You can guarantee that anything left in the shell will blow out and ruin the paint if you don't do this thoroughly!

Etch primer on bare metal follower by two light coats of grey primer on everything exposed:

If you are not revealing any secrets, 965.501.73(4)9.00?

Had a question and maybe you've answered previously on this or another thread...apologies in advance if I missed it :)

When you do a full respray, do you replace all the factory stickers afterwards? If so, can you share your source for getting NOS stickers or reproductions? It appears some stickers are available from the dealer but many have been superceded or are no longer available.

Thanks! :cheers:

:corn:

this is getting really interesting. thanks for sharing the progress.

Nice progress, keep the pics coming!

With modern computerised production techniques and digital photography, pretty much any NLA sticker can be replicated accurately, you just need to find a good local sign maker who is up for the work involved.

Detail seam sealing of all welded areas:

Followed by brush sealant:

Then another masking session in the booth:

Or a good color laser printer and Papilio paper if you can get access to the source image in good quality.

Going blue......

Meanwhile, next door in the toy shop the elves have been busy with their assembly work:

9M.
With respect to the painting of the car, do you replicate the factory finish?

On my own factory built CS, some of the primer shows through the top coat slightly on part of the cage and in the front luggage area, we know this is correct.
I wondered if this was acceptable to your customer, as with your attention to detail, it would not be difficult to improve the quality of the paint finish, or do they prefer an original look at perhaps sub par quality compared to the finish you are able to offer?

I also own a factory built 993RS Clubsport and the cage in mine is fully painted, hence the definition of "correct" must be down to the man holding the spray gun on the paint line I would say. At the end of the day though, this is a Ninemeister Clubsport conversion so the paint finish will reflect the wishes of the customer rather than any attempt to pass off the car as the "real thing".

Fully painted, 9m style:

Wow... Looks amazing Colin. When it comes to a "drop it off and forget it" experience, you guys truly are peerless. You take turn-key to the next level.

Last paint job on the shell falls to Rob to finish: the treatment of the front & rear screen apertures with special black paint which promotes full adhesive bond between the windscreen and the metalwork.

Take note of the timeline. Late Friday morning Robin started assembly by first fitting the oil and aircon lines with the shell was on axle stands.

You will also notice the waxoyl treatment inside the heater tube compartments to ensure that any areas burnt by the roll cage welding is at least protected from atmospheric moisture. Before painting we injected etch and primer into the cavity, this step is therefore a "just in case we missed a bit" measure of protection.

Come afternoon, the big guns came out to fit the wiring harness:

Love the work you guys do. I'm curious what material your using to make the cages. With technology where it is I'm betting it is lighter and stronger then original clubsport/cup. Or maybe just cold rolled?

What's the reason for the small holes in the bottom of the main hoop?

Nice work!

Thanks for sharing, Colin! (and crew!)

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Another Dumb Question
 

I'm sure this has been asked, but what's the purpose of this? Thanks.

From left to right: Robin, Richard, Marc (MC) and Mark.

Smurf-rrific! Craftsmanship on display. :corn:

9M, now you have posted the photos, I can see the quality of paintwork is as good in the luggage area as the rest of the car. It looks great!

It's not that my cage and luggage area isn't painted, it's quite common in these areas to see paintwork as 7/10 quality in comparison to the rest of the car Porsche painted.

I see you have added a knee bar to the cage, over the CS spec, is that something the customer requested?

Cheers! :cheers:

Yes, cross brace under dash was another customer request.

In respect of the painting, 'tis true, Porsche seldom fully painted these sections. Very often we get to repair expensive "collector" cars like the 964RS & 993RS and in these circumstances we do go to great pains to match the original primer colours and exact overspray patterns on the inside of the boot aperture and floor. In fact, it's quite amusing to hear of cars being sold as "original paint, never damaged" when they have been through our bodyshop! ;)

^^^ Nice to see the team hard at it Colin :-) I really can't decide what phase of this process I enjoy the most .. taking them apart, the 'discovery 'O hidden surprises' .. heh ... the mod portions, the paint or the rebuild. It's the best show on the interwebz! :cheers:

Lots more hard work today, starting with fitting the ridiculously badly designed 993RS sideskirts with the fixing lugs that snap off as soon as look at them.....

At the pointy end Robin set forth on fitting the secondary oil cooler:

... followed by the ABS hydraulic system:

Wiring loom now fully in place so interior assembly can begin once we've finished underneath.

Suspension sub-assemblies next on the fit list: KW Clubsport suspension, RS top mounts, GT2 evo front hubs, RS anti-roll bars, RS rear wishbones & track arms and rear subframe solid mounts (stiff axle kit).

....

A couple of detail service items were required along the way: new handbrake shoes (originals delaminated) and a set of new Goodridge hoses to replace the corroded old ones.

Up front a set of camber adjustable 993RS top mounts give the inner wings more purpose. Inside the pedal box does the same for the driver's footwell.

Richard fitted the bare engine lid and had the usual fiddle to fit the gas strut pins.

whilst Robin and Marc fitted the side windows. The decal set tells an interesting story. Methinks it might get another one soon enough? ;)

This is some really nice work you guys are doing, and you are really working fast.

The top two decals are a real rarity, Swedish Porsche club meeting at the Ring..:thumbup:

I like the pedals. I have the same pair myself and they are super comfortable.

Ahhh it all makes sense now.. I was just wondering why the oil cooler in picture 6 hade "made in Sweden" written on it.

Congrats J, what a great car this will be.

Can't speak highly enough about 9m. Keep up the good work guys :thumbup:

Reassembly photographs are always inspiring especially around all of the newly painted surfaces. Installing the gas struts is definitely much easier with the engine out! Great work!

Heater system, fuel tank & fuel filler going in this morning.

Next door in the painshop the lads were preparing the spoilers for paint, later on Neil laid on the base coat, laquer in the morning.

Marc tidied up the front compartment wiring and finished off the ABS assembly.

At the other end of the shop, Mark has been busy with the build of the engine, ready for the head re-assembly next.

The specification is 3.8 litre, 9m billet heads, 9m Sport Camshafts, 9m modified Varioram and remapped 88 pin Motronic with cat bypasses. We're expecting to see around 290+rwhp & 350fwhp on the dyno next week.

The other job Marc managed to finish today was the re-trim of the dash surround and installation of the instruments. He and Owen also managed to trim the dash top to suit the cage and Andy is lined up to cover it over Easter weekend so we can fit it early next week.

Other minor wins were de-badging the engine lid (it's definitely never going to be a Carrera 4 again!), machine polishing the back end and roof panels and assembling the engine bay fuse board and aircon pipework.

Did I mention that this 9m93RS CS is driving back to Sweden in 10 days time? ;)

Your project is coming along nicely, thank you for sharing!

Some additions this morning, Robin assembling the brake system so that we can have the car back on its wheels.

Neil also masked out and painted the black basecoat to the inside frame of the rear spoiler before it was laquered. Unfortunately I had to leave just before noon to look at another project so will have to post more tomorrow.

Subscribed. Great thread - looking forward to the updates...

Thanks Paul, always good to get some feedback....

Spoilt for choice?

Robin fitting correct RS glovebox in place of the airbag.

With complete lack of trim and track use intention, the radio amp under the passenger seat is next on the list of surplus items to pull from the car.

And at the other end of the shop Mark is gearing himself up for a bit more fun:

And that's all for now, Easter weekend started tonight so I won't be posting more until Tuesday I'm afraid.

What is getting done to the Transmission?

Wait Colin... how does that work exactly? Does the hinged cover get a finish panel or something?
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Replica spoilers?....Didn't notice the "Turnwald" badge or sticker on the rear?

Looks good, a great colour for the big spoiler kit!

Dang... Starting to look truly epic.

Stock 1st & 2nd with close ratio 3/4/5 up to original 5th as 6th. Follow me?

Yup, on the RS the glovebox front panels are bonded over the painted metal panel and you can see the paint around the closed door.

Price and availability always affect the choice.....

Thank you.

Enjoy the long Easter weekend, your team does fantastic work, and a great service to the community to share your progress in such detail. :cheers:

The boys were back in town this morning and straight into the job of having this car finished by the end of this week.

First job was to fit the seat belts and harnesses, both are required to comply with local road use requirements to have inertia reel seat belts.

Wheels on, off lift, time to refit the doors.

As soon as the doors were hung and aligned, Owen set to work reshaping the door cap mouldings. Andy is all set to trim these tomorrow to meet our weekend deadline.

Door tops sorted, time to fit the new RS door panels and handles. The door release pull straps were specially made in Blue Turquoise.

Excellent work!!!

I cannot get enough of these threads!!!

Column switches refitted, awaiting steering wheel. We're using a three spoke GT3 style airbag wheel with a retrimmed rim, double padded to increase the thickness. Again the airbag wheel is being retained to comply with local licensing laws.

The factory RS Clubsport would have a non-airbag Sparco wheel (or similar) with a collapsible momo style boss. To fit this wheel you would have to exchange the 993 swithc covers for the 964 version; the 964 column surround has a smaller diameter clearance hole to match the more compact momo boss, without the 964 surround you would see the centre of the column switch between the two.

Small detail from the gearbox build: option M003 993RS Clubsport steel syncro rings to replace the factory bronze rings. Clubsport ring is on the left.

These parts raise the question to how Porshce set their pricing structure? Two of the RS rings are £370 each, the other 4 are £160 each, so that's £1380 +VAT for a set of syncro rings. Ouch.

Final little detail from today. The GT2 front uprights and RS disc & caliper assembly have a unique backplate, so we ordered new ones from Porsche to finish the build. Typical Porsche attention to detail, once came in silver and the other came in black.....

Technically it could, but in this case it is not. The car now lives in Northern Europe and will now probably spend most of its life driving around the 'Ring.

any other mods in the gearbox: re-gearing, 8/32, etc? :corn:

the price of the syncro rings are shocking? Is there any aftermarket part for these?

Having stayed silent and just enjoyed the postings from Colin and all the encouraging comments from the community I can only say that it has been fantastic to follow the work Colin and his crew has performed on my car and I am bursting to see,feel and drive the car in the next few days. :)

As you see I have adopted a fitting name to match the car here on Rennlist, the same name will later be the registration number/plate on the car.

I will as soon as I can post videos from various tracks we drive and of course from the mother of them all the Ring :burnout:

9MRSCS - can I say that im very envious of the car but wish you the best of health driving it.
for all on here at rennlist im sure they would agree it would be ace to see some videos of the car racing.

9MRSCS: congrats on a beautiful car! Can't wait to see the finished car and the track videos :thumbup:

I wonder what stupid country has requirements like those :rolleyes:


Stunning work as always and hats off to the people at 9M. What a nice build! :thumbup:

Congrats to the owner, enjoy in good health :rockon:

Can you still get those from Porsche? Or is that something you can get from 964?

I don't have the airbag, nor lower panel and it would be a nice to have a glovebox for registration etc. (now they're behind driver's seat).

TIA

9MRSCS drive in good health, please please please share Ring and Spa videos and thanks for writing the check and letting 9m share the experience with the forum! These builds are from the heart not the head and we can all admire the results.

Grattis!!! That's some kit you have there, weill be awesome at tracks around there and of course at the Ring as well.
(from Colin's post I gather you're a Swede).

No, the steel syncro parts are all Porsche only items.

In my opinion changing the R&P to a motorsport 8:32 is a seriously bad idea for a road car because the smaller pinion gear will not last anywhere near as long as the stock 9:31. In an ideal world we would replace the mainshaft, raise 1st gear and close up the huge 1st to 2nd drop of the stock G50/21/20 gearbox, however on a cost basis and since most road & trackday users rarely use 1st gear in anger we can choose to accept 1st and 2nd for what they are and adopt a close 2/3/4/5/6 gearset. This is the approach we have chosen for this gearbox.

I spoke with Jeff Gamroth from Rothsport yesterday about a transmission rebuild/regear and he said the exact same thing... Almost word for word in fact!

All 964 parts including lower dash trims, the lower dash panel section is available from Porsche or you might be lucky and find one in a breakers yard.

Great minds think alike? ;)

Thanks for the detailed answer and for the graph. Now i've learned something new

Nice work!!

Any idea why RS front backing plates are different colors? Just ordered some and mine came in different as well!

I was going to thank you all, post by post ,for the best wishes but are not familiar with how to do this (coying posts into a reply) so I will ask Colin for a lesson on friday and then personally comment to your posts in the future so it will be a common Tack (Thanks) to you all!:cheers:

I hope to see the European members on the Ring or at other venues across Europe (and perhaps some in Sweden) in years to come as this car will be a keeper:D

It is a re-build from the hart that I hope to enjoy for many years to come and the next step down the slippery slope will be to put her on a diet hence no need for a full re-spary :evilgrin:

Power is nothing without control :D

Beautiful car, nicely done!!

Porsche dealer arrogance, mine came through both the same

Weird! Thx for reply Bill.

that's ~$275 a pop for the 4x 3-6 syncros + the guide-sleeve and shift forks @~$560 a pop and whatever else may need attention while you are in there

Fabulous build, great car - you're a man of taste.

I'm based in the UK, so the Ring could well be somewhere we meet! Doing the Manthey day in August?

Look forward to seeing some pictures on Friday...

Also, I'm going to drive the EVO Triangle and Llanberis Pass on Friday with some friends... We'll have 4 Porsches, 3 Astons and 3 Ferraris going. Fancy joining us for a maiden drive in the car? Obviously all of the Nine Meister crew also welcome?! You'll only be a few miles away... ;)

The current plan is to go to Nürburg on the 1st of August and to do a few laps over the weekend during the public driving to then join Destination Nürburgring´s track day on the 5&6th so to get some clear laps. I will then do the Scuderia Hanseat in september with our car club RingRunners.

What date is the Manthey day?

Could be easy for you to stay... It's on the 7th September. I'm going with my club, Gentleman Drivers Club...

Sounds like I great opportunity and I thank you for the invite. It will however depend if Colin and the lads are all done with my car by then as I am scheduled to arrive at 9m on friday morning!?

The Scuderia Hanseat starts on Sunday the 15th of September goes on until the 18th so unfortunately my stay in Nürburg would be too long, wife would kill me!

We'll be having lunch at the Rhug Estate At 12:30, driving EVO Triangle before... I'm happy to send you a PM with my mobile if you're interested in meeting up?

Porsche have two different suppliers for the parts and are now rolling out the old stock of one colour with the new stock of the other colour. At some point in the future the parts will arrive in the same colour, probably silver.

You know, I love the way we are all talking about where the car is going to play whilst we are still working day and night to get the car finished for the weekend. That's progress I guess, at no point has anyone questioned our sanity!

Anyway, in respect of the boys putting the car back together let's get back to the build. This morning a new rear spoiler grille was fitted to the spoiler; we could have used the original but it would have ot be cut out of the old spoiler and would more likely be damaged as a result, so a new one is a no-brainer.

Following that Rob set about bonding in the rear screen. The skill here is to know how much adhesive to use, the height of the bead is set by the nozzle on the gun. The adhesive is rapid set, so an hour after fitting we can remove the holding tape and fit the edge seal.

At the other end of the workshop Mark is cracking on with both the gearbox and the engine build.

Unfortunately office duties meant that I missed photographing the head assembly this morning, but I did manage to catch Mark assembling the cam drive and setting the basic cam timing. Later on Mark had the 964 rockers fitted and adjusted, hence on target to have the engine ready for installation tomorrow.

The 9m/Carbonetic limited slip differential is now fully assembled with the original final drive ring and new side bearings fitted, so a couple of hours work required and the transmission can be fitted as well.

It's a good job we're not planning an early finish on Friday I suppose!

There are very few cars that I would think a big ass Nordschlife sticker on the rear window would look good. This is one of them.

This rebuild has been just fantastic to watch, being a newbe I'm in awe of your team!
Thanks for sharing.:cheers:

Great that you are sticking with the 993 rather than going down the easy path of a GT3, you will have so much more fun!

I can recomed a pair of Peltor ear protectors, they will give you some comfort on the motorways and wonderful swedish roads now that you skipped the carpets.:thumbup:

Really close to the end now, my friends.

Andy's worked wonders with the trimming. The dash top, door caps, dash panels and centre console all done and in place now, should have the steering wheel back tomorrow. The door caps still need the end pieces trimmed back to fit.

The extra large Recaro SPGs are going back in necessitating a relocation of the seat belt anchors from the seat base to the tunnel in order to clear the harness anchor points. Here Owen is doing a final clearance check before fitting.

Mark continued with the engine build, here is the sequence of work as the day progressed:

Details: Rob detail polishing the screen apertures before moving on to the spoiler; RS battery cut off switch now fitted and wired in; new engine bay airconditioning pipe arrived to replace the one which stripped the threads on dis-assembly.

Always enjoy your threads, thanks for sharing.

Is that the original vinyl gauge surround or a new leather piece? How difficult is it to match the contour of the dash in that area?

I'd like to replace mine at some point but not sure if I can make the material conform to the shape of the dash. Have you ever re-trimmed one w/ Alcantara?

So it looks like SAI is retained, along w/ the OBD2 DME,

964 rockers, what cams?

Have you found someone to reflash an 88pin DME?

SAI deleted, guts of motor retained to prevent check engine faults. 9m Sport cams fitted. My friend Wayne did the ecu reflash.....

Rob polishing the rear spoiler; centre console and gearlever fitted; ecu (for the benefit of Bill); front end and headlights fully built.

Robin finishing off some minor rewiring; Richard and Marc installing the engine; new Toyo R888 tyres on the Rays wheels; engine now running (minus exhaust)

Interesting, did you ever have a chance to play w/ the variant coding pigtail on the 55pin cars?

It's alive!!! Cool stuff Colin. Best part of the project is when you can put it all together after all the disassembly.

Colin do you find those Techart fog/bake duct combos a PITA to fit properly?

I had them fitted and they required alot of fettling behind the assembly to get them looking right and sitting flush. Certainly didn't seem "plug and play" to me....

Amazing work fellows! I have really enjoyed following this thread

BRAVO:rockon:
Colin you are a man of perfection ....
I need to see a final pic w the Rays wheels can't wait
Thanks for bring this beast to us

Erm, no. Wayne just remaps them for us as required.

Yes, they are. We had to rework the shape to get them to fit & repaint them when we were done. To be fair they were on the car when it arrived, they certainly would not be our first choice, we prefer the factory turbo S version.

Thanks for all the positive comments, they are definitely appreciated by myself and the owner.

Anyway, I'm off to bed now, we have a new 9m93RSCS to finish tomorrow!

Thanks Colin. I thought so. We had to do the same here. The Turbo S ones are direct fit. Getting the Techart ones to actually perform their intended purpose was an even bigger mission with plumbing, hole saw, deflector etc...

Milestone Saturday! Exciting times yesterday when the customer and his colleague called in to see the car whilst on a business trip to Manchester. Forunately we had planned to finish the car by this weekend so all worked out perfectly.....

Even my dog, Woody, came down to njoy the action and do his bit of meeting and greeting!

The customer got in on the act with his iPhone, so this is me photographing him photographing the 9m93RSCS

Seats and wheels....

Marc inside the car adjusting the fit of the Schroth seat belts.

Followed by a four wheel alignment.....

Hi Colin. Great work and pics. Just love Woody too!

A couple of questions. I note a sticker on the headlight. Is that something to do with LHD driving in a RHD country? For some reason I thought the 993 headlights could be switched over, but if not where does one obtain such stiickers?

Secondly. With regard to front and rear camber, what settings approximately are those? Looks like close to -2.5 degrees rear and -2 degrees+ front? The height of the car is RS?

https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...4-dsc_6814.jpg

Haha! So good. :thumbup:

very enjoyable read. thanks for sharing. Cars looking amazing. Nice work

Congrats guys, great stuff. Love the dog pics.

Glad you like my dog, he is rather cool.

The stickers are available in most car garage & accessory shops in the uk & europe but you are most likely to find them close to the English channel crossings. The 993 headlights can be switched from LHD to neutral or from RHD to neutral, you cannot switch LHD to RHD or vise versa.

The camber is a bit more than that, -2.5 rear and -3 front. Ride height is close to RS, maybe 5mm lower on the front to gain high speeds stability at the 'Ring.

Another excellent build with tantalizing pictures to boot. Thanks!

Porsches and dogs +1
 

A great thread made even better with dog pictures! :jumper:

Video at the Ring please (when you get there) :bowdown:

Colin could we get a side profile shot of her I'd like to be able to admire the Rays and stance of vehicle w the camber specs and agrresive fitment referenced she looks amazing ....something to strive for ...
I feel like my car is close yet so far away
Thanks for your time

Will this do Sean, loading the car onto the dyno this afternoon?

^^^ Looks really nice Colin .. :thumbup: What kind of h.p./torque are you expecting?

I'm definitely feeling a little bit ropey today. Probably the result of inviting my customer to celebrate the finish of his car with a litre bottle of Jim Beam? We stopped celebrating when we lost the ability to communicate..... ;)

Previous experience with this engine specification suggests that 340-350bhp should be in order, but with the revisions to the bottom end we can explore a higher rpm limit than usual so might find more above 6900. Will soon know.

ropey, ropy /ˈrəʊpɪ/ adj (ropier, ropiest)

Brit informal inferior or inadequate
slightly unwell; below par

ˈropily adv ˈropiness n

My new word :-) :roflmao:

This was an early picture when Colin was still able to operate the shutter of his camera.:cheers:

I have a strange felling that I might have switched to Swedish as my ppm past 2.0:p Which could have explained the loss of communication (can happen above 2.0 ppm:) of which I have no re-collection :nono:

Seeing the car live is just so much better than the pictures are able to transmit. In the the 9m shop they have a factory 993GT2 CS and I looked at this car and inspected all the welds on the cage. They where no way as good as on the 9m93RSCS and this further fuels my feeling that I have some thins that is really special !!! a 9MRSCS

As some of you Rennlister´s may remember Colin mentioned that he had some tuning going on and he showed me (not all) what they are up to and I was amazed to see that they are above the hp/litre of the 458:rockon:

I think my car will go back to 9m:bowdown:

A little 'hair of the dog' required?

I assume if you have fitted R888 tyres that the car is not going to run on the road?

I'm looking for a tyre that I can drive to track days with and then on track but which won't wear at a alarming rate. (I use R888 on my 968 but they fit in the back of the car with no problem...not an option for the 993)

How does a 993 feel on the R888 tyre? (I think they do hard and soft from memory)

This has been a good thread.

Ken

wonderfull car, amazing toy for big boys like us!:D

Gratulations to Colin, Marc and his team for another perfect build! It was a pleasure to follow-up the process! Hope another 9m project is already on the way...

one question about the steering wheel:

Who made the airbag cover upholstery work?? I'm deperately looking for a black leather example with blue contrast stitching...

Nice work Colin, really looks great.

Do you have the f and r wheel and tire specs?

Also, post the dyno when she is done.

Patience is a virgin.....

Latest dyno plot attached, 350hp & 429Nm. The engine is what we call a 9m 993 Varioram +3 specification which has rods, 102mm 9m pistons & cylinders, 9m billet heads, 9m Sport cams, 9m Sport valve spring set, ported Varioram intake with 100 cell cats. The air pump system has been partially deleted (not required in Europe) and the 88pin ecu fully remapped. The rev limit has now been raised to 7500rpm.

(Before anyone asks, this set up is fine for European legislation I don't think it would be suitable to pass US engine check standards, hence we are looking at other solution at the moment for the US market.)

Toyo R888 are road legal so that's how the 9mRS will leave our premises on its way back to Europe. Fronts are 235/40 rear are 285/30 on 8.5" & 10" x18" Rays TE37 rims. We had to roll the rear arches to get the 285 tyres to clear.

Thanks Colin...

The power curve is very interesting, very flat from 5750 all the way to redline... I tke it this is a factor of both head flow and cam choice.

Very nice!!, What would it take to get it to rev to 8K?

Why no Motec on this one?

The rev limit could be raised higher, but with a close ratio gearset with a maximum of 1300rpm between changes from 2nd through 6th the extra rpm on a falling power graph would reduce the acceleration speed at the expense of significantly higher engine loads, friction and wear. It's just not necessary, the car will be faster where it is.


Limited cost to performance benefits in addition to the problem of accurately mapping the car for radically differing climates and altitude for its use in Europe. A Motec M84 or M600 conversion may find another couple of hp here and there, may also achieve a better response, but to be honest even with the compromise over requiring frequent check light resets due to the lack of SAI it is difficult to justify the expense so we (me and the customer) decided to push the funds towards a better chassis and brakes as we believed there was more to be gained there, especially with one eye trained towards future 9m developments....

.... intake plenum modifications, intake & exhaust port profiles, valve size, valve lift, valve timing, piston design & squish heights, compression ratio, combustion chamber design, burn speed control, combustion event normalisation.....

Yes, it's the cam. ;)

Such a nice build, very interesting to see how your friend Wayne has been able to massage the motronic into working with this heavily evolved engine spec!

BTW love the smurf blue, the owner should ditch the seats and fit Alloy Kirkey seats painted body colour;-)

One day....lottery....etc.

Good idea re: using motronic. What octane do you tune for & what correction factor do you use for driveline losses?

The car is running Shell V-Power 97 octane only.

Our dyno measures rolling losses, adds it to the rear wheel numbers and then corrects to DIN standards so we have no control over the cf for the runs, but 350hp is typical of this conversion on the 9m dyno though.

Colin:
350 bhp & 429 Nm is really satisfying to see:)

The reason I have decided not to put ITB's on and remap with Motec is that I would probably fail an MOT. When we drive at local track day events we currently enjoy the cover of our insurance but this require that we have a car that is road legal.
If I, with this current set up, installed ITB's, Motec and a more purpose full header what improvements would you expect in regards to power and torque? and at what rpm's assuming that I stay with the rest of the engine as is?

what a fantastic build! Love the 9M stuff!

This is pretty much the same spec engine but with 9m Race cams, ITB's and Motec. Runs stock Bischoff 993 heat exchangers & 100 cell cats. It makes 400hp.

Nice power and I personally prefer to keep it simple, close to the way Porsche intended.

The car looks great, nice work...maybe it's me and having been around Rs's for too long...BUT why would anyone keep the headlamp wash...on a car where you have replicated so many RS details, it totally stands out?
Each to their own I assume.

I hope the new owner has a lot of fun with the car!

Colin. With the GBP so weak at the moment your upgraded engines are looking excellent "value". To replicate a similar set up as you mention above with ITBs etc what are we talking ballpark - 25k+ GBP?

Tank you Clubsport 1 for your kind comments!
The reason the headlight washers are still there is because it is requiered by law in Sweden to have them and they where original on the RS and RSCS sold new in Sweden as well, so it is to keep the car original and to pass MOT:-)

I do look forward to drive with my friends who have original RS cars and I kind of expect the 9M version to have an edge, time will tell!? :-)

Yup, you're right in the ballpark for the engine. Need to allow for the Motec on top though, so for an ITB engine with a full custom engine harness it will set you back another £5k.

Hi Ken,

I used to drive on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup but Colin suggested I try Toyo R888 in 2009 and it was a good suggestion!

The reason is that they have about the same grip and life but when you are on the edge of the grip they let go in a much more forgiving way such that, me being not a professional race driver, I can drive the car on a bit of a drift.
The MPSC had a tendency to loos the grip in a more dramatic way and hence I felt it more difficult to catch the car. They are also superior to the MPSC if there is a bit of water on the road where the Michelins where a nightmare!

In Europe they are street legal why we can use them to drive to and from the tracks. If you run a lot of camber then it will of course wear them down on the inside is you spend a lot of time on the highway but you can perhaps take a more interesting road to the track and then you may get away with it:D

I concur with your findings completely. One Speed Championship season I ran MSC tyres on my 993RSCS because there were no other options available to purchase. At that time I drove the car to and from events and duly got the shock of my life the first time I hit rain on the road - I ended up power sliding the car sideways for around 150m on a dual carriageway as I fought to regain control of the back end of the car after hitting shallow standing water. How on earth these tyres ever managed to get an E-mark to say they are road legal is completely beyond me. Dunlop D02G were much better but the R888 won my vote for best all rounder.

For my Speed Championship winning seasons I switched to Kuhmo Ecsta V700 V70A because they were available in a different compounds, my choice being medium for the hillclimb & sprint events I did. The V700 are another very good choice (and fairly competitively priced) but do require the car to be set up accurately and need a smooth driving style to get the best from them. For trackdays you would need the hard compound version.

I've run MPSC for the past 5yrs, been pretty happy w/ them except in the rain, which I don't do anyway.

Yesterday was the first day trying NT01, I have to say I was impressed. Only issue was they seem to build pressure a lot more than MPSC.

Bill. If you think NT01 are good you will LOVE Hankook 221s - also called TD (you will have to hunt down a supply over there). Theres a detailed independant test using a 911 GT2 on the web which makes good reading (the test was in the States). The took the NT01 crown in the recent World Speed Time Attack comp....

I considered the Z214, but they don't have the sizes I'd want to use, they are hard to get here anyway

Hi Bill. The Z214 is a good dry warm track tyre but its essentially a slick. The Z221 (TD) has groves and is driveable in wider conditions. I agree they arent easy to track down but I believe the popularity is increasing in the States so hopefully a reliable supplier will appear soon...

That's really all I care about, Oh, and inexpensive is good too!

Thanks for the feedback guys. I run the R888 on my 968 but tend to take them in the back of the car, and you can run them down till there is nothing left in this way.

I'm going to start tracking the 993 now (Colin fitted a LSD last year) and I'm just about finished on the suspension. I'm going to try the R888 following your feedback (and they are cheaper than the MPS which is a bonus if you get a better product)

This will probably be my last post on this build as this 9m93RSCS is due to leave Ninemeister tomorrow morning and destined be on its first trackday by the middle of next week.

The boys have been busy all week fine tuning the suspension at our local airfield and sorting out a few minor glitches which we expect on a complete car strip. Fate smiled on us and we were able to find a day to work on decoding the 88 pin ECU to eliminate the secondary air injection system and all its annoying engine check light malfunctions. The 993 turbo DAMOS file came in handy (index file for the main ecu chip) although it took Wayne and me a while to translate anything suspiscious from German to English. The good news is that my final 50 mile test drive this afternoon proved our mission successful at both eliminating the check lights and covering the car with road grime.....

.... resulting in me spending the rest of the afternoon pressure cleaning off the road grime, hand soaping and a good waxing of the bodywork, but at least now it's good to go.

We and the customer have learned a lot on our journey, a few highs and lows but only to be expected on such a comprehensive build. It's been a pleasure to photograph the build stage by stage and bring the photos to you all, I hope that you have enjoyed it as much as we all have?

TTFN

... I'm already Jonesin' ... what's next up?? :to_order::thumbsup:

It's really looking good. Dream car.

Forgot to mention, it weighed in at a nudge over 1300kg with nearly a full tank of gas, take the fuel out and we are looking at a 100kg reduction from the original Carrera 4, probably about half attributable to the reduction in trim and half to the C4 to C2 conversion.

Awesome awesome awesome. Great build Colin. The car looks epic. Stance, wheels, wing, suspension, engine, everything is fantastic.

As in .... what's up with your new engine developments?

:cheers:

You and Constance have a lot in common. ;)

All in good time my friend, all in good time.

Beautiful car. Owner is very very fortunate.

Thanks for documenting the build.

Car collected, ran the 700km trip home faultlessly apparently.

Three days later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkx_F...ature=youtu.be

Scroll forward to 2:24


And from inside the car:

Found this thread last night, just finished reading it this morning.
Another great rebuild on Rennlist. I can't wait to get started this autumn with mine!

Planted!

Poetry in motion. Of course, we've all come to expect nothing less out of your shop.

Thanks for your posts. You continue to feed the addition here...

Astonishing
 

I have now had a couple of opportunities to drive the 9MSRSC off public roads.

The first opportunity was, as you may have seen, an auto cross time trail with Porsche Club Sweden at Ljungbyhed. It was fantastic to feel how different the car now is compared to how it was before 9m made the last re-build. Now taking the car to RS Club Sport specification but with its stronger engine and a re-geared gearbox.

Going from 4 to 2-wheel drive makes a lot of difference as the car now has a turn in which is direct with little to no understeer. The car had a LSD but driving it now made me realize that it had not worked since I purchased the car back in 2001. It was difficult with the 4-wheel drive system to understand what was what as the visco cupeling to the front transferred more power to the front wheels when the rears loose grip. The new Carbonetics LSD 40/60 which 9m has installed made the cars rear help when turning in and made the car more stable.

The new suspension has allowed for more camber and the stiffer suspension combined with the RS anti roll bars and fully welded cage made the car a pleasure to handle through the course, very flat with little roll of the chassis.

The revised engine and gearbox worked fine but had little difference on the track we drove as I stayed in 2nd gear and never ventured in to the new set of gears installed.
That I could win the R-group is evidence enough to the capacity of the car and beating Otto, supreme champion in auto cross division Syd since 2008, is a rare pleasure. The fact is that I think that I can go much faster once I learn to drive the car, watch out Otto:D

Yesterday I had the first opportunity to track the car and the venue was a track day at my local track Ring Knutstorp.
I decided to be very careful as you can see in the video:


I have driven this track with my car for the last 10-years and found my way around well before only to now realize that I can and will have to drive very different ways to go faster. The new brakes at the rear, had the big reds in front before, allows for later braking and the LSD helps to keep the rear end in place as well. The new chassis makes the car vey well planted and I had to hold myself back not to go too fast on this first track day. Instead I practiced different ways around the track to familiarize me with the car and also to see which gear I could use in different corners. The gear box from 2nd to 6th now makes the car feel like a motorbike and provides a flat acceleration where I can stay almost at peak power, 350 hp, through the gears.
As you all know it is sometimes hard to know what is the faster way around as you may gain in one place what you loose in the next section. I did time myself and stopped pushing at 1min 10 seconds but feel the car has a capacity to cut 2-3 seconds from the lap time once I get it right and know where the limits are of car/driver as a package.

I will continue to post videos on this tread as well as my evaluation of the car in the future. We will be driving the Nürburgring on 5, 6 and 8th of August as well as SPA on the 7th of August so If any of you Rennlister's reading this is around you are welcome to have a look at the car and to talk:corn:

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Colin, Mark, Robin, Mark, Nick and the rest of the crew at Ninemesiter for their dedication to perfection and for transforming my car (which I felt was very good before they started) to one that is now truly ASTONISHING, the 9MRSCS:bowdown:

I shall pass on your kind words to all at Team Ninemeister!

Thanks for posting the video, nice little circuit from what I can see with many non-too-obvious lines that would be a real challenge to drive fast. 3 seconds? Don't kid yourself J, you will have 5 seconds off that time once you understand how to drive the Clubsport. Don't rush though, took me 5 years to get the best from mine!

All the best, look forward to reading more updates in the future. ;)

A homage to her creators
 

Attachment 728357:bowdown:

You should point out that the number plate has not been a victim of Photoshop!

Wow, what an accolade. Cheers! :cheers:

Win Win
 

In Sweden you can buy these personalized number plates and the proceeds goes to research to improve traffic safety.

You have to add a sticker issued by the department of transport to the car showing the original registration number on which you have this personal registration plate, see sticker:

Attachment 728395

The cost is approx. 1000 dollars to a worthy cause as a homage to an achievement which 9m has earned through 20 years of hard work - Win Win:rockon:

Trackday at the Falkenberg track in Sweden
 

The second time at the track the confidence is slowly building and the car is working well. The weather was perfect with 22 deg C. and sunshine. The track is one of the fastest in Sweden and quite tricky with a number of high speed corners where I took it easy but felt that the car had more to give.
The new gear box and the torquey engine provided options as to which gear to go through corners and I felt that there where more to give, but i I decided to keep my head cool:cool:
I enclose a video for all who are interested to view where I chase a Cayman R with whom I drove very close, on some laps he was ahead and then the other way around, hope you will enjoy it :roflmao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gXcG...ature=youtu.be

I still hope to make it to the Nürburgring this year and will post a video if this happens:cheers:

Nice video. the car goes well......It will take time to get used to it, but if you have the correct RS big reds, you can definitely brake much later!

Have fun learning the ways of the car. :)

Soo much to learn!
 

Hi Clubsport1.
Your are right - I can brake later but I am unused to how the care handles before turn in and I would hate to loose it.......
I had the rear brakes changed to RS spec and had the RS in the front from the previous re-build. The old differential never worked but the Carbonetic diff fitted by Ninemeister sure does (40/60 Ninemeisters own tweek). I do feel that it takes some learning to have a diff, rear wheel drive (remember I drove it a 4-wheel drive for 12 years) and bigger brakes at the rear.
It is very much like having a new car to master and it will sure take time to master, but time is all I have and boy will I enjoy it:thumbup:

Hi 9MRSCS. Lovely car. What telemetry/lap timing gear and software are you using please?

Hi Macca,
I use a iPhone 4 with Harrys laptimer v.17.0.4. It is fitted in the TomTom holder which provides a more accurate GPS signal and I also have a KiWi-WiFi OBD connection to the car. This provides the rpm, accelerator level and through programing of the gear ratios in Harrys laptimer you also get the current gear in the display.
You can improve on the GPS update frequency and this I will do. The current TomTom holder provides a 1Hz update frequency but V-box has a system providing 20Hz. There are also other options and the main driver to do this is that the Tom Tom holder is not as rigid as one would like hence the picture is as you see not always perfect.
Check out Harrys Laptimer on the net as it is really neat (no affiliation).

9MRSCS. Thanks for the datapoints. For a low cost system it certainly seem to work well! Do you still have the Motornic ECU or do you run Motec?

Hi Macca,
I still use the Motronic ECU and have a OBD2 socket to which I connect the KiWi wifi.

Thanks 9MRSCS. I had actually thought Colin did a Motec conversion on your engine but was obviously mistaken...

A film from SPA
 

I have now had the opportunity to drive the 9MRSCS at SPA and as promised will now share this with you Rennlisters;)
The track day was organized by Curbstone and we where 76 cars, half of the cars was pure racing cars and where very much faster than us track day punters!!
It was raining all morning and did not dry up until 3 pm. I went out and did some laps in the wet to feel the track but the race cars throw up so much spray that you could see nothing...
In the afternoon I did about 10 dry laps and the one I share was about my 3rd dry lap on this circuit so the lines are poor:crying:

I will post more from the Ring where we have been driving for a couple of days and will continue tomorrow with RSR.
Hope you enjoy my stumbling steps at SPA:bigbye:
9MRSCS

The link did not work so try this one!
9MRSCS

Wow great video, enjoyed that very much. Thanks!

Thanks for sharing! So how did Harry's Lap Timer keep track of RPM and Gear?

A quick post as I have to go to bed!
Another video this time from the ring, comment will come in a later post!
9MRSCS

This IS porn...

Drool . . . :corn: Thanks for sharing, some 993 Ring goodness!

Clearly more speed there, lifted / blocked more then a few times for traffic. Bimmer should have let you around. What happened in Corner 24 around 6:50 to telemetry data?

With traffic and Bimmer in your way, 8:16 still very impressive! :cheers:

Great video!! I was yelling at my computer for the M3 to get out of your way! My kids came in asking what is wrong? :) I hate being on the track and clearly catching someone in the corners and them blasting away on the straights and catching them again in every corner. Usually I am in a BMW though. If someone catches up to you, let them go by and continue on.......now if in a race, COMPLETELY different story. In this case, if he would have just lifted and let you go by, you would have been gone! I guess I am preaching to the choir though :) Thanks for the video!

What happened in Corner 24 around 6:50 to telemetry data?

YEAH, 69000 RPM, -183KPH ON THE STRAIGHT, 383KPH ON A CORNER?

Never seem that before!

.....

That motor sounds nice and tight. Congrats!

Comments to the Ring,SPA and AvD-Oldtimer-Grand-Prix 41
 

This was a trip we had looked forward to since early spring and we packed our cars on the transporters and drove from Sweden on the 4th of August. The journey to Nürburg took 13 hours and we had about 1 hour of stau, which is not too bad..
We had four track days booked and then I had managed to get hold of some VIP tickets to Porsches hospitality tent for the Oldtimer Grand Prix. The schedule was then like this:

5 & 6th track days with Destination Nürburgring, DN9. 13:00-16:35 on the 5th and 08:00-16:35 on the 6th.

7th track day at SPA with Curbstone.net 09:00-18:00

8th track day at Nürburgring with Schnelleschwaben from 08:00-16:35.

9,10 and 11th Oldtimer Grand Prix nr 41.

The first track day was a very hot day, 33 deg. C!! The organizers had warm up laps where no overtaking was allowed for the first 30 minutes and this I think was a good call. It meant however that you got stuck in traffic after the 30 minutes had passed and I guess one should have left the track and re-joined. I did 8 laps on this first day as the high temperatures quickly made you tired. My friend Martin, driving a Z3M Coupé was unfortunate and put his car into the Armco barrier at miss-hit-miss section ripping the rear wheel almost of the car. Car most likely a write off:
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376828528
It was a day to get used to the track and to mourn the misfortune of Martin:crying:

The second day of DN9 was very good and I drove 23 laps, one of which I have posted earlier, and I was now getting the speed up. The car performs well and I slowly are getting used to where I can not drive it like I have been used to. Before arriving I had about 260 laps on the ring when the car was 4WD.
I now have to be careful when I enter a turn where the ground is falling away and you need to turn in, like over the Adenau bridge where I almost spun a couple of times due to the car sharply oversteering. The same is happening as you enter Brünchen after the crest at Wipperman. It is a bit scary but in time I will see if I can make adjustments to the set up to minimize this tendency.
The new gear ratios are working well and many sections where I previously felt a lack of power are now gone. Going up at Bergwerk is now a full trottle job and this saves much time. On some of the laps I still have a problem to force my brain not to lift of at Kesselchen but just to keep my foot firmly planted..
The only problem with the car on track seems to be that 4th gear some times drops out. This happens when you come from 5th and go to fourth release the clutch to go back on the gas. It has happened as I enter Adenau bridge and also as I brake and downshift before the S section prior to Hohe Acht. Unsure as to what the cause is but needs to be further investigated as we had some problems with the gearbox during it's re-build.
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376830309
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376830309

The third day we had my car on the truck and my friends Martin & Jörgen had rented a M3E60 as Jörgen also had problems with his car. It was a early start from Nürburg but we arrived in time for the briefing with Curbstone at SPA (drive took about 2 hours). It was however raining and I waited for a couple of hours before I dared enter the track, still raining however.. The day was shared with race cars on full wets and they where scary quick and pulled a spray such that you could see f--k all once they passed.:eek:

In the afternoon it dried up for an hour and I went back on the track and did about 10 laps before the rain started again and we packed up and returned back to Nürburg. In total I only managed 17 laps which was far less than anticipated:(
The event was well organized but the presence of so many race cars was intimidating, especially if you are new to the track and it is wet.
SPA is a great track but can not compare to the Ring. The organizer took some really good pictures of the 9MRSCS.
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376831600
https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376831600

On the 8th we had the Schnelleschwaben track day. The McLaren club was there and they had 13 x MP12-4C present..
I decided to do as many laps as possible ..... it came to 8 laps before my gearbox/clutch started to make so much noise that I dared not continue. :grr:
This was a great shame as I was now getting into the car and was cutting about 3 seconds per lap. The best lap timed with Harry's laptimer was 8:09 but the video had turned of as the memory was full so I cant show you, bugger!! I felt confident that I would have passed the magical 8 minute barrier if I could have continued but it will have to wait to another year...
I went to Prosport and a mechanic went with me in the car but he was unsure what was causing the noise. Then went and spoke to RSR as I had to return a transponder and they had a mechanic who had done a lot of work on Porsche and he was confident that it is the clutch making then noise. He suggested I fit a Helix clutch as opposed to the Sachs I currently ride, has anyone used the Helix and has any views on it?

In total I had driven 39 laps on the Nürburgring and 17 laps at SPA.
The sad news is that the car drinks oil.. For this driving I have had to put in 7 litres of oil:crying:
The driving distance for this consumption is approximately 900 km. How much oil does your engine consume during a track day/per km?

The car sometimes smokes when I start it but not always and it is not leaking from underneath so the oil has to go through the combustion cycle:confused:
I guess Colin has some thoughts to this problem and that there will be an easy fix?


The grand finale of the week where the Oldtimer Grand Prix where we had tickets to the fantastic hospitality tent Porsche had. It allowed us to park our cars on the track and also provided some fantastic cars. As an example there where 24 starting F1 cars from the year 1970-1984 in one race. Oooohh what a sound..
I had the 9MRSCS on the car park and it received some attention from the crowds. And probably spread the Ninemeister brand to many visitors from far and away, perhaps some of you reading this saw it?:cheers:


https://rennlist.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1376832873

9MRSCS:thumbup:

Thanks for sharing! Some great photos on track!

9MRSCS,

Great to read about your exploits to the ring and Spa, shame about your friends accident, this is what we all have to be wary of on track days is it not.

In the last picture, I noticed your wheels. I've been searching for similar for my 964, can you tell me more about them?

Volk te37's http://www.rays-msc.com/wheels/index.cgi?d=10

V. Light compared to other 993 options. I'm sure OP or Colin can add more detail

Absolutely fantastic thread BTW.

M.

Thank your for your comments!
It has been a great visit to the Ring and to Spa and I will post more pictures and films when I return to the Ring. Ambition is to go sub 8 BTG and had I been able to continue on the last track day I feel confident it would have happened.
But I will rush slowly as to the Ring has a wicked tendency to bite back if you try just that little bit too hard:cheers:

StuartQ
My friend has driven many laps around the Ring but you only need to loose concentration for a short while and the accident can be there. He came away without andy physical damage and that is the most important. He was also lucky to have track day insurance and we found out yesterday that the insurance company will scrap the car and pay him. He had however invested a lot to make build it into a good track day car so he will loose money which is sad.:( However it opens up for new projects:D

The wheels are as mentioned by Metamatt Volks TE 37 for Porsche and they are very light and strong. I guess one should have speedlines on a car like mine but I am into driving it more than for the looks and then the Ray's are a much better option.

Thanks for the info on the wheels.

Glad that your friend is ok and that he is at least part covered by insurance.

Does it mean, we will have another build project to look forward to?

Great that you are having fun with the car at such incredible circuits.

Personally I would stop using the car on track with such excessive oil consumption.

Something is clearly not right and you could end up causing serious damage to the engine, more so than if you rectify it now.

I always check my own 93CS after a track day...after 200-250km of use I find , maybe 1mm of tyre wear, some brake dust on the rims and no change in the oil level at all......I never need to top the oil up between services.

It's as if the car is laughing at me, that I have not even been trying!......or it is just so well built?

Clubsport1
Thank you for the feedback on oil consumption!
I was booked to do the Scuderia Hanseat in september but have cancelled this trip due mainly to the excessive oil consumption.
The main driver to do my re-build was high oil consumption after the previous 9M rebuild and I will discuss with Colin how he intends to rectify this problem!
I have had two outings on track days previous to the ring trip after the full re-build by 9M so this kind of problem should not exist...

Good luck with the oil issue...

Amazing thread and thanks for sharing... I couldn't stop reading after seeing those welds and now I'm late for work!

Enjoy in good health!

Please do rush slowly, as the Ring can bite back hard and is not very forgiving. ;)

Any update on the oil issue?

7 litres in 900kms sounds serious.
I've not done more than 2 litres in the last 15,000 miles.

That said my car is not tracked so perhaps a bad comparison.

Wishing you well on this one....

Is this you getting passed at around 4:40?

^^^ That does look like the 9mRSCS! Volks wheels and everything...

It sure was!
That car was seriously fast and with Sabine behind the wheel it just flew by.
It passed me a couple of times and I looked for it at the pits used by us but the video shows that they used the old pit lane at T13 which explains why I did not manage to find it.
Well I am OK with being passed by Sabine:-)

Found another view from the Larea GT9 passing the 9MRSCS at 5.12 just before you enter Brünchen this time driven by Ron Simons. It sure is very fast doing the lap in 7,28:-)

Did this get resolved yet? Interested to see what is causing this.

The car is going over to Colin at the end of the month to be sorted!
I trust Colin will continue the tread with updates as to how the problem will be solved:-)

Fantastic car, story and use of that car. Please do continue to update. Not sure that the BMW was holding you up as badly as some have said... Looked more like a fun tussle with him if anything.

Makes me really miss tracking and the analog beauty of a well sorted older car. Fantastic how you kept up with that current gen M3 (was it a GTS?) in your rear engine, rear wheel drive beast. Great stuff.... And you made e 993 proud. Am sure you had to work a lot harder to keep pace with him compared to all the technology he possibly had aiding him. Awesome.

Any more updates on the oil burning issue?

Yep.

The car is back at Ninemeister and we are waiting on delivery of a new set of cylinders to go with a new set of rings before we pull the engine for a look see. The problem will be not be a problem for much longer!

Progress is finally being made. New 993RS pistons and cylinders (Mahle from Porsche), crankcases machined out for 109mm cylinder spigots, seals installed, parts cleaned ready for rebuild:

Mark busy again today, with the new 9m93RS engine going back together like clockwork. By the end of play tonight Mark had the engine ready to set the cam timing.

Looks fabulous !
I have a good feeling that the blue smoke she emitted is very soon a problem of the past!
/9MRSCS

Have you been able to identify the problem with the first 3.8 build?

Looking nice
 

There is something special with engine pictures...

Will be fun to see progress and the new dyno figures.

The problem was a combination of factors mainly to do with bought in aftermarket parts not having the same attention to detail in critical areas of the machining, all leading to problems with the piston ring to bore seal. I'm not saying any more. Suffice to say that I made the decision with the engine to use a zero risk solution, hence why we chose to fit a Mahle RS P&C set. Ultimately we will 100% solve the problem when we start up our own production processes for pistons and cylinders but that will not come in time to get this car to Spa in April.

2014
 

After the re-build the 9MRSCS will be droppet at the deep end of the pool:eek:

I have booked track days with Circuit Days and Get Speed on the Nürburgring driving on the 2-4th of April. Further to this I have track events on the 6 & 7th of April in Sweden so the car will see lots of action already this early in the season!

This will be the earliest I have driven on the Ring and I will keep my fingers crossed that we will have good weather. I will try to post some video from these days using both Harrys Laptimer and a GoPro.

9M will also fit a new steering wheel to allow me to sit a bit further back to gain more legroom around the steering wheel. The car was converted from 4 to 2 wheel drive and we are also bringing the front mount of the gearbox to RS standard. To improve my personal safety I have invested in a HANS-hybrid neck restraint device - just in case:(

All in all I hope 2014 will be a year when I will get to know the ins and outs of the 9MRSCS.

I will keep posting on this thread and perhaps inspire some of You RennListers to follow down my crazy petrol path..... you know Colin and 9M are only a phone call away:cheers:
/9MRSCS

Thanks for sharing, it is a shame when you are let down by others in this way.

Looking forward to the action shots and the running fine for you.

Engine fully built, gearbox updated with new C2 nose section & C2 cradle, new clutch installed. With the engine running we Mark has it on the 4 post lift with the rear-end wheel alignment underway.

The rear bumper has just been left off whilst we do the break-in and pre-collection checks on the dyno.

Colin, Looking good! I do look forward to the dyno! Hope you had a good time being Franz? All the best from Lindvallen/Sälen /9MRSCS

Franz Klammer or Frank Spencer? It's a coin toss. The sun shone all week, the snow was great and the company even better. Fab week in Courchevel (again), thanks. :)

We have to be careful with the break in on the dyno as this will not be a number chase but all I can say is that the last RS engine we built and tuned with the same cams made 360hp. Time will tell.

Final job: modify the rear bumper to remove the US bumperettes. Well, it's a bit more than that as we are also cutting cooling ducts to the sides of the bumpers where the heat from the silencers has already damaged the paint, although I must add that the cause of this was down to failed mounts allowing the silencers to touch the bumper rather than over-hot running silencers. The customer's cunning plan is to cut out the over-rider holes to a regular rectangle and bond in blue mesh on the back to visually disguise the holes.

And here are the finished holes: a great save for a heat damaged non-euro bumper if you ask me.

The 9MRSCS back at the Nürburgring
 

I picked the car up at 9M on monday the 31st of March to start the 1000 km trip south to the Nürburgring where we had booked 3 concecutive track days with two operators. The first day was with Circuit Days and the following two with GetSpeed.

Colin and crew had put the car back together and washed it of. The new steering wheel felt great even though the old one which they had hand made was nicer to hold and to look at. But the new wheel is more that 2" closer to me allowing the seat to be moved back a bit allowing better legroom under the steering wheel. I need this as I am 190 cm long and it has improved my position in the car. The mesh which they had put in the rear bumper looked great and the towing hook now allows me to winch the car up on my lorry with the rear first.
The trip down to the ring allowed me to run in the new cylinders and pistons and my calculations came to the conclusion that the piston rings would pass the cylinder bore approximately 3,6 millon times before I reached Nürburg!

The oil was in the middle of the stick when I left 9M and I did 1000 km to the ring and then 50 fast laps of the ring = 1000 km. For this amount of driving I topped up the oil with 0,4 litre - the oil problem is definitely SOLVED:D

As the car still is very new to me I am slowly improving my driving of the car and there are still many areas where I can improve. I can fore sure brake later but there is also much room to optimize which gear you use such that you avoid to many gear changes and can concentrate on finding the right line to bring more speed out of the corners.

The car is very analog in its feel and a fantastic ring tool. The tires I run, Toyo Proxy 888, has a tendency to get a bit hot and even though I feel comfortable on them I will try the new Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 when they are available in 18" which as far as I know will be in september this year.

My last lap on friday ended with a puncture in fuchsröhre, probably as a result of a Porsche cayman having gone off at flugplatz leaving debris on the track. Fortunately the stiff sides of the R-tyre allowed me to get the speed down and I could limp back to Adenau where we could load the car ont the lorry for the journey back to Sweden.

I took some film but had a bit of problems with my equipment. I use a iphone 5 with Harry´s Lap Timer with a VBox sport providing 20Hz update for the GPS position=very accurate. It turns out that Harry made an update which should improve the connection with VBox but I found this out to late.

For all you Rennlisters who have not driven the Nürburgring I hope you will have the opportunity to do so and if not you can always enjoy my lap on this link:


Big thanks to Colin and 9M who took this operation to fix my oil problem as a warranty issue with no hassle. The car is now superb fun to drive and I am confident that my driving on the ring will improve with practice. I have also some filming with GoPro which I will post as soon as I have figured out how to edit it down to one lap.:bigbye:

Rats! Missed you by one day. I was there on Sunday for tourist laps (Scirocco rental) and for VLN on Saturday. Would have liked to meet you in person, seen the car, and see you and the car out on track. Heck I would have even begged to ride shotgun for a lap :cheers:

You are living the dream!

Some GOPRO filming
 

Kein_Ersatz
That was a shame I would have liked to meet you too, always nice meeting likeminded air-cooled petrol heads :) Did you have a good time ??

I will drive Destination Nürburgring DN 10 on the 2 & 3 of July and perhaps also drive with Piston Club on the friday 4th. It will depend on if the weather is OK or not. This time we drove 20+ laps per day on the first two days and that was about what i could manage. On the friday, second day with GetSpeed, it was damp on the track and the daredevil Felix Baumgartner was practicing with an Audi R8 which he drove into the barrier after the compression in fuschröhre which closed the track for a couple of hours. Many meters of new armco there:( I was rather exhausted on the friday so that the track was closed on friday morning was a bit of a relief:icon501:
If your are there in July you are more than welcome to ride shotgun for a lap or two.The next opportunity would otherwise be later in the year when I hope to do the Scuderia Hanseat which is in September.

I have also managed to operate iMovie on my computer so here is a link from inside the 9MRSCS for a lap of the Nürburgring, hope you will enjoy:cheers:

All the best// 9MRSCS

Kinnekulle Ring - Sweden
 

We had a track day on a newly resurfaced Kinnekulle Ring and the weather was perfect, 20 deg and sun:burnout:
Kinnekulle is a technical track and a very good place to learn how the 9MRSCS moves around and slides. I am aslo slowly building confidence in putting on the power once I hit the apex as well as using the brakes in co-operation with the diff. The diff makes a nice little shriek as it is put to use and it also help to drive the car well out of the tighter bends.
I took some film in the car using GoPro and Harrys such that you get an idea of the speeds in various sections of the track. As this is a smooth track compared to the Nürburgring the suspension could have been harder set up harder but to improve the time around this track I learned later in the day that you should run a different line on some parts which improved greatly my progress around this track. I had however no more batteries in the GoPro by then and did not bother with Harrys.
I post some links to the films I have uploaded to YouTube.
Hope you will enjoy them and look forward to be meeting some of you Rennlisters on Nürburgring during the DN10 in the beginning of July.
:cheers:
9MRSCS

Thanks for sharing, short track, 3rd gear seems just right, lots of "wait for it" sweepers and the bridge underpasses make for attention setting.

I never get tired of the updates on this car, keep them coming

9MRSCS at Rudskogen - Norway
 

Thank you nr1416 for your encouragement it keeps me posting:burnout:

In Norway they have a track called Rudskogen ( http://www.rudskogen.no ) which underwent a re-build some years back. It now has FIA status and it is a difficult track which will take many visits to master.

This was my first visit to the track and I was impressed. We where about 25 cars on the track and the weather was superb with sun and 20 deg. C.
I did about 35 laps during the day and found many ways to drive but unsure of which was the faster I concentrated to further learn how to drive the 9MRSCS on a bit of a drift. The tires I drove on today where Toyo 888, 235/18 at the front and 265/18 at the back . The rears was an old pair I had lying in my garage but seemed to work OK.
I took some footage using a GoPro fitted in the car which you can look at here:

I was chasing my friend Sten who is a very good driver having done three 3 24-hours at the Ring in Porsches.....:reckon:
He was driving his wife´s 991 S as his new GT3 still has no new engine:(
I still had a hard time catching him.....

I have purchased Michelin Pilot Sport Cup which I will use for the next track venue which will be DN 10 at the Ring. It will be interesting to see whether they can shave a few seconds of my best Ring time and also stay more consistent than the Toyos do. On my car the Toyos seem to overheat after a few laps and I loose a bit of the grip. They are still enjoyable to drive on and when they let goo it is predictable and relatively easy to catch the car - hope the change to Michelin´s will not prove to hazardous :eek:

Hope to meet some of you Rennlister´s at the Ring during the DN 10:cheers:

Seems to be an interesting track :thumbup:

Car is already famous here so nothing to add there anymore :)

what kind of mount are you using for your iPhone?

Hi Holger3.2
I am using an igrip T5-94800!
It is stable and can be mounted on the windscreen providing a good filming angle.
I am using it with Harry's Laptimer and I have also bought a VBox Sport to improve GPS frequency. Unfortunatley the current version of Apple's operating system ios is having problems with the stack handling of blue tooth connected auxillarys. This is why I have not posted any films from Harry's. I hope they will fix this in the up-coming 7.2 version of ios and that it will be released in time for DN10:cheers:
9MRSCS

Thanks
i'm using Harry's since a while, but for timing only. Tried recently also the video stuff but get still some problems. Main issue is the heat here, last weekend more than 40+ Celsius..., with the camera on the dash its vibrating and after less than 2 laps the iPhone said by-by due to overheating...
I never had the problem with timing only.
Tried also the Multi-camera function together with my GoPro as screen in screen, but cant get it really to work.
Further, everytime i use the background video function to see the timing, it makes crazy jumps / shortcuts in my charts. overlaying charts with 'best time' gets totally messed up ... http://kellerasyl.forumprofi.de/wcf/...ies/crying.png

http://www11.pic-upload.de/08.06.14/b7k76gboluk.png

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great car!

Read the whole thread - great...

You scandinavian guys are quite fast on "our" ring :-)

Thanks for sharing, never gets tiring seeing such track videos and hearing her at song.

Deliberant and smooth sterring inputs, nice style. :cheers:

I'll watch this with some interest to see how the tyres compare. Rumour always suggests that the R888 is better in the damp.

R888 are old compound tech now. MPSC2 is likely a far superior tyre for all conditions. We use Hankook z221 and z214 down under and find they are 2-3s a lap faster than 888. Hankooks are the latest compound and design.

I'll check them out, are they road legal?

Yes they are R compound dot rated and street legal. They are a superior design and compound to R888 but they may be hard to find in northern hemisphere - we have run them back to back against r888 and re55 on 964 and. 993 and they are 1-2.0s faster on a 2.55 course for z221 and approx 1.2s again faster for dual groove 214. The Australian 911 race crowd using them too.....

great videos, dare I say please post more. The sound of the engine is intoxicating

Amazing! I have read the entire build-thread.

Great!

I hope this is the right thread, apologies if it isn`t ! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/gifs/shy.gif

I was at DN10 with my MK2 Golf and from the Foxhole onwards, I had a great lap with a Blue 993RS, I`m pretty sure it`s this car from the photos of it on DN9 in this POST.

I went and had a good chat with the driver afterwards. Hopefully this is you, it was a really enjoyable lap ! :)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...10/PORSCHE.jpg

Video here:


Please feel free to delete this post if it`s the wrong car ! ;)

I expect it is as he was planing on being there last week. Thanks for sharing!

Great vid.

Nice driving. Your Golf must be well set up!

Wh00sher,

Great driving!

Wow...need to know more about that Golf!

Has that got rocket boosters on it!

Any specs, story and pics?

what a dream track

Very fast Golf MK2
 

[QUOTE=wh00sher;11487931]I hope this is the right thread, apologies if it isn`t ! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...r/gifs/shy.gif

I was at DN10 with my MK2 Golf and from the Foxhole onwards, I had a great lap with a Blue 993RS, I`m pretty sure it`s this car from the photos of it on DN9 in this POST.

I went and had a good chat with the driver afterwards. Hopefully this is you, it was a really enjoyable lap ! :)
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Sorry or not having replied until now Nigel but life has been hectic:eek:

It sure was the 9MRSCS which passed and I guess I have to thank the McLaren for providing the passage down the foxhole;)

I had my iPhone on filming this lap as well and here is the view from my car:

I understood that you had a bit more power than a standard 16V under the hood when I could not shake you off climbing from Bergwerk up to Hohe Acht.

The driver in the McLaren must have missed the flag at Wippermann and he had a good slide in the sanitation powder they had on the track as did the 997GT3RS. It spooked them so much we had to pass as they slowed down in Eschbach and Brünnchen.

It was great taking to you and I hope we will have opportunities in the future to share good laps as it is so much more fun when you have someone to follow or be followed by.
My iPhone use a VBox Sport for GPS update rate which is now 20Hz so I believe the speeds in Harrys Laptimer are accurate for reference. What system do you use, it looked very good?:cheers:

Thanks for the video. It`s always nice to see your own car from the outside :)

That McLaren scared himselfa little I think ;)

I use a PBox for GPS data, GoPro 3 camera and ECU datalogging via an app for my ecu.

I combine all the various sources using RaceRender software. It requires manual intervention, rather than doing it all automatically like Harry`s laptimer.

Hope to see you on track in the future.

Nige.

Mission Accomplished
 

We arrived in Nürburg on Sunday the 29th of June and the reason for this was that my friend MV was going to sort out suspension and set up on his car prior to DN 10 starting. We meet a Norwegian in Linderhof drinking beer in the evening and he had his car with GreenHellRacing and the proprietors name is Darius Drzensla. Darius is not only a very accomplished diver he also now how to use a wrench:thumb up:

MV had new springs fitted to his BMW and a set up to fit the Ring. It also turned out that Darius had competed with the 993 Carrera SuperCup in the mid-90ties so I asked him to set also my car up as he deemed suitable for the Nürburgring. This in combination with having fitted MPSC tires provided one step further in the evolution of the 9MRSCS. After having set the car up Darius took me for a spin on what he called his "own part of the ring"!! It was backroads above Adenau and they combined all parts of the ring. I have never gone so fast on a public road nor have I jumped my car as far...........:burnout:
Safe to say that Darius was satisfied with the set up an me to still be alive:eek:

DN 10 was a very hot event this year and there where many participants, perhaps too many with varying abilities and experience of the Ring?
It resulted in the track being closed for approx. 4 hours on the first day and not far of the same on the second. As everybody wants to drive it means that as soon as the track opens after a shunt most cars are ready and goes out resulting in a situation where you are forced to overtake many cars. To go fast I need to have a few consecutive laps without too much traffic but this never happened during the two days we had this time.

My goal for this trip was clear - go sub 8 BTG.

Guess my surprise when I later checked my iPhone to find a lap time which started with the number 7 minutes...

Here is the lap and it is my friend MV who is driving his BMW in front of me after I let him pass before Flugplatz.


Some bastard had stolen his wing clad trunk lid outside our hotell Zur Burg during the night:grr:
But he had managed to source one from a junkyard with no wing why I was a bit scared to be too close to him as his back end was rather loose....

One feature of Harrys Laptimer is that it combine the best sector times to present you a virtual best lap and for this trip with few clear laps the vb for the 9MRSCS now stands at 7:54. Next years goal will have to go sub 7:50 for a timed lap, perhaps MPSC2 can help on the way as they will be available in 18" then.

I can not thank Colin and 9M enough for having helped me to have so much fun with this car and I hope to see many like it participating at various events on the Ring.

Next visit to the Ring will be in September as a participant of the Scuderia Hanseat.

Perhaps will I meet some of you Rennlisters there?

All the best - 9MRSCS :thumbup:

Great to see you are having so much fun using a CS spec car using it as it should be indulged.

Scuderia Hanseat 2014
 

We arrived in Nürburg on Saturday the 13th of September together with many friends from our car club RingRunners of Sweden to watch the VLN race on the Nürburgring. It was a foggy day and to everybody's disappointment the race was cancelled due to fog.
The registration for the Scuderia was opened at the Dorint hotell and we enlisted and received our stickers, numbers for the cars etc. On the Sunday we where allowed to drive all day on the Tourist Driving and the morning was wet why I fitted my spare wheel set on which I had fitted with new Michelin Pilot Sport tires to provide some safety as the Cup version is to slippery to go on the Nordschlife when wet.
Some slow laps and then a rest followed by a few laps as it was drying up, then the carnage started with too many crashes why I decided to call it a day as we had better weather forecast ahead and it was to risky to be on the track.
The format of the scuderia is that you have two full days of section practice and two opportunities of free driving, approx 3,5 hours free driving per day. The last day you have section driving in the morning followed by 1,5 hour of free driving after which you have your examination lap.
During the examination lap you are evaluated on the grand prix track at two positions and on 22 positions of the Nordschleife. You are started with a gap of 25 seconds between the cars in order to not catch each other and the starting order is set to even the speed of the respective cars.
I had a very good lap with the exception of the Adenauer Forst curve where as you will see in the films I had a little mishap. A late turn in ended in my ambition to hit the turn in point that my left rear wheel touched the left curb and the balance was lost resulting in my car railing the left curb. Luckily no damage to my car other than that the plastic lip under the front spoiler which will need a few screws to be as new. You are however allowed to discount one evaluation position hence not much lost in means of overall points.
For those of you who are aware of the scoring I ended up with 193 points which is my best result so far and only left me a couple of points short to qualify for Winners Group for next year - I´ll be back:D
The Scuderia Hanseat is a very good way to learn the Nordschlife and I recommend it to any of you Rennlisters who want to learn and enjoy this track. You can find more information here: http://www.scuderia-hanseat.de/en/home.html

I filmed the examination lap using both Harry´s Laptimer and a GoPro.





I hope you enjoy the films and will post more films in 2015 as my car will now go into winter storage.

All the best - 9MRSCS :bigbye:

I enclose a selfie with my driving heroine - Sabine Schmitz. Taken during a fantastic evening event at her ranch.

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Me and Sabine Schmitz

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Sabine Schmitz´s Ranch/Saloon

What a thread! I read it on one pass by this rainy afternoon in Corsica, and I'm really impressed. Congratulations to the 9M team, the owner, ... and the Norschleiffe track designer :)
And to discover on the last page that this was the car I saw in Nürburg this September is just too much. By the way 9MRSCS, this is a serious bunch of petrolhead boys your brought with you from Sweden seing the cars which were parked around yours. It would have been a pleasure having a beer with you guys. Hope to se you next time.

Enjoyed that video, thanks for posting.

Thanks for sharing! :cheers:

Will be a Spa (RSR Track Day) and Ring (watch VLN & Tourist laps) in Oct 8/12, so missed you by a month, rats.

We will most likley be back to the ring next spring and I will make arrangements as soon as they start posting track day dates for 2015.
I would also like to do the Sport Auto course on the ring as it has been recomended by friends as a very good way to find speed around the the ring.
This year I managed 3 visits to the ring and we where extremley lucky with the weather as we had 100% dry days when it mattered!
I will post dates as soon as we make some bookings and perhaps you will be around such that we can meet up, if the organizers allow passangers you are welcome to ride with me for à lap or two😳
RingRunners consists of dedicated petrol heads and the car fleet among owners is impressive counting most marquees of competent sport cars. There is à thread of pictures on Flicker of cars from our club, search for RingRunners of Sweden and you will find many superb fotos.
/9MRSCS

I will be in SPA on the 7th as well with my 997. It would be awesome to meet another rennlister there!!
We will be attending the "Green hell" driving days at the 'ring 3. - 6.10.

If you are interested in finding speed there I can hook you up with Pro drivers Markus Palttala and Jesse Krohn.
Jesse is young but very experienced and VERY fast. He holds the current lap record for the VLN 24h variante (GP circuit + Nordschleife) in CUP 5 class and is in the BMW junior driver program.
Markus on the other hand is a very experienced GT driver with a lot of racing history at the ring. This season he is driving one of MarcVDS GT3 class Z4s and also driving the Turner motorsports Z4 in the IMSA/TUDOR series.

Markus Palttala: http://www.markuspalttala.com/?page_id=8

Jesse Krohn: http://jessekrohn.com

Both gentlemen are 911 experts, even though they are currently racing with BMWs.

Markus lives in Belgium has told me he will be happy to drive to the ring if he is not busy racing.
Jesse lives in Finland but I think he has spent this entire season at the ring...:D
He was coaching me in July and said he spends a lot of time there so it should be quite easy to find a date that suits both.
Markus was coaching us in spring in Finland and he has promised to come with us to SPA on the 7th.

These guys are not only fast but also good teachers, which is quite important.
Pricing you will have to negoatiate directly with them but they are very reasonable.

Also, I have no stake in this, just that I know both gentlemen and have really enjoyed their coaching and knowing they enjoy coaching, I can highly recommend either one to anyone trying to find more speed at the ring.:thumbup:

Oh yeah, and your car..... :bowdown:

Shame one doesn't live closer to the Ring otherwise I would have joined you gentlemen:crying:

Thank you for the tips on tutors, I do think I need this to get one step further in my efforts to master the Ring but will have to find suitable track day dates in 2015 and then see if they can fit to that time. :thumbup:


[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, and your car..... :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Yep...my wallet and 9M´s expertise and the result is fantastic the car is just so fun to drive. I just wonder why not more people choose this route, there seems to be endless number of 911GT3RS drivers depreciating away the water damaged cars:confused:
I hope we get the opportunity to meet at the Ring when you have your new
project ready as I would love to see and hear the beast in action:rockon:

Will arrive in Brussels on the 7th and head over to Spa in the morning. MY RSR Track day is 8 Oct. only. Are you doing just 1-day the 7th or both days 7 & 8 with RSR?

I should have time in afternoon 7th to head into Pits, will be on the look out for you and your 997.

A flight to Frankfurt is just a mouse click away... I can arrange for a good ring tool rental (VLN prepped E46 M3, Megane RS CUP) for a decent price...:)

I totally get what you're saying! After I finish my GT2, my next project will be a 993 RS tribute with a proper (9M?) engine in it.
I'm also sure we get to meet at at the ring next summer!:thumbup:
The downside with my GT2 is that it's a no go for TF...

I'll be there only for the 7th with RSR. After the session ends we'll drive to Frankfurt for some Oktoberfest'ing...:thumbup:
Please come by!

Wow!! Thank you so much for such a kind offer! I live only 2 hours from the ring, between Brussels and Liège. I would make the up & down just to see the car, so imagine with such a proposition :jumper:

I'll keep an eye on this thread.

Well .. neither of those cars are air-cooled:burnout:



Then I hope you can ride with me next year unless you already have been in a car with a 9M engine :D

When you are ready with the GT2 would you really want to risk it at TF, personally I avoid TF .. to many mad drivers there:eek:

Lets hope 2015 will be à great track day year
 

The various organizers of track days at the Nürburgring has started to post dates and some friends and I have booked with Destination Nürburgring to do their first trackday for 2015, DN11.
The event is over two days, 1&2 of April, and with a bit of luck it will be dry and sunny.
I hope to see some of You fellow rennlisters there, perhaps also as participants such that I have some air cooled cars to share a few laps with:burnout:
//9MRSCS

Made a note of dates :biggulp:

A picture say more than a thousand words!:crying:

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As I am a fair weather driver that was a summary of DN 11 ... I hope for better luck next time!
//9MRSCS

Sucks... but perhaps you had some beers at Pistenklause? :)

Btw. Do you know if the speed limits that were put up for the VLN race are still there for other events like DN or normal TF?

Beers to drown the lost days chasing down a Grillhaxe at Lindenhof!
Discussing better times as well as making plans for the next visit to "the mother of all race tracks" :cheers:
When do you plan to go down next time J, it would be fun to meet up?:burnout:
//9MRSCS

Hi Johan how's things?
Shame about the weather for dn 11, a few of my friends went and said it was cold and very changeable. Typical Eiffel weather I suppose for the time of year, very unpredictable.

Are you going to dn12 in July?
I'll be there can't wait need a fix! Ha!

A common April risk, back in April 21st 2012 ... Sorry the Eiffel strikes again, the track gods were in a foul mood. Better luck next trip!

DN 12
 

Hi Neil,
No DN 12 for me as July will be spent with the family in Sweden.:surr:
I will do the Scuderia Hanseat in the beginning of September with RingRunners and perhaps DN13 later in the month, if time allows!? :burnout:
//9MRSCS

Snow and Ice
 

It is so frustrating when you have longed so hard for some laps all winter only to find that the winter followed you to the Ring. Last year we where however very lucky and I just have to keep my fingers crossed for good weather for next visit in September:cheers:
//9MRSCS

Sorry to hear the 'ring was a white out; keep posting, I love reading about the trips and the car. I got very lucky on Saturday. In the Uk we have a saying - 'April showers' - which meant I was surprised to get to Anglesey and find this; love playing with my 9m car in the sun :)


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Hope to see into you in Warrington or spa some time!


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Thank you for the fantastic pictures of your car on such a beautiful day!
It would be great to meet up at SPA or perhaps the Nürburgring.
Have you done any driving on Nürburgring? If not a good way to learn the Ring is to do the Scuderia Hanseat course which I will do in the beginning of September.
Lets keep in touch such that we can have some 9M rumble around some great track:burnout:
//9MRSCS

Kinnekulle 2015
 

Thought some of You might enjoy some engine sound to listen to this weekend:roflmao:

This year the weather was not so good as last but at least it was dry.
Kinnekulle is a twisty little track and they laid a new surface last year so the grip is good. The track suits the 9MRSCS as it is not too much of a power track, it allowed me to keep up with cars which are much more powerful such as the 997 GT2´s. (on the video you can see two cars ahead and it was a 997 Gt3 and a GT2)
I had a hard time getting my tires up to temperature and had it been a bit warmer I would have gone a bit faster. But we had a great day.
/9MRSCS

Rudskogen 2015
 

A lap of the great track in Norway called Rudskogen. This time using my iPhone and VBox Sport for accurate timing.
//9MRSCS :)

Where did you mount your iPhone (location on car)?

Thanks for sharing :cheers:

engine
 

Colin, on that last engine rebuild, it looks like the oil squirters are missing, are they in that deep as not to be seen or are they removed? thanks

iphone mounting.
 

In post 381 you can see where I fit the iPhone, it is held by a iphone mount igrip T5-9480 which is solid. If you look at the video you can see the front right fender when it is a bit bumpy.
I then have a Vbox sport in the glove box using an external antenna fitted on my rear window, cable going through the old wiper hole, for a good gps fix. The iphone and Vbox communicate though blue tooth and it now works fine:D

I will be doing the Scuderia Hanseat driving course 1-3 september this fall, any chance you are around then?
//9MRSCS

ABS 993 CUP
 

When driving on the nürburgring there are a couple of places where you have all four wheels in the air. At Pflanzgarten there you also need to brake after the jump before you turn right. Once you start to go faster you brake before and after the jump or if you are a nutter you brake only after:eek:

The standard ABS fitted to the 993´s including the RS has a "black ice" function. This function allows the brakes to release if the system indicates that all 4 wheels lock up at the same time before the system then starts to modulate the ABS function. If this happens when you have all four wheels in the air it is very uncomfortable when you land and instantly want your brakes to work as the brake peddle then starts to pump and you have a very scary moment!

After having experienced a number of these and discussing this with Colin he informed me that he had replaced his standard ABS on his 993RS after a similar incident with a CUP ABS which not only provide a better ABS function but also do not have the "black ice" function.

Having searched the internet for some years I eventually managed to aquaire a CUP ABS for my car through Freisinger Motorsport, it was very expensive as these parts are very rare to come by but made a vast improvement to my braking at this specific part of the ring - one valuable and further optimizion to make the 9MRSCS an even better tool for the ring.

If you are interested in this modification you can see the number of this ABS unit on the picture below (993.618.125.70). But remember if you manage to get hold of one you also need to rewire the socket to the unit //9MRSCS


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Depends on the car of course but I agree, it is very scary when you land the jump at Pflanzgarten to realise you have no brakes...:eek:
With a fast street car (on street tires) you get on the brakes before the jump, then ease off for a split second and immediately after landing you get back on the brakes.
With a race car on racing slicks you can brake after the jump, although not with the top tier cars.

I'll be jumping again this weekend in the RCN race.:rockon:

The CUP ABS brain is an awesome upgrade!

Anderstorp Scandinavian Raceway 2015
 

Sweden has a history in formula one and during the seventies Ronnie Pettersson was a successful Swedish driver. As a result some entusiasts build a track in Anderstorp where for a number of years F1 races where held, 6 times.

Ringrunners had this track for the day and the weather was very good. Many interesting cars such as Mclaren P1, Ferrari 488, Porsche 991 GT3RS, Ferrari 458 Speciale, Porsche Cayman GT4, Porsche 991 GT3 and many many more.....

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The best this day however was that I was not the only air cooled car on the track , JN had brought his 964/993 orange beauty which you can just see way in front of me in the enclosed video. Unfortunately I have no still picture of his car but will post one at a later date.

Earlier in the summer we had a meeting at Falkenberg Raceway and I managed to take an interesting wide angle picture from the whole grid of cars among which you will find a Porsche 918 which of course attracted a lot of interest.

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It is now time for my last visit this season to the Nürburg ring and we will drive down on saturday such that we can see the FIA WEC race on Sunday. During the week about 50 members of our club will participate in the Scuderia Hanseat which take place on the 1-3 of September, lets keep our fingers crossed for dry weather:)

Perhaps some of you Rennlisters will participate in the Scuderia or visit Nürburg next week. If so hope to see you:cheers:
//9MRSCS

Hey, my 993 is on it's way to the ring as we speak and my CUP car will follow next week. I will be racing in SPA on the 12th and plan to do TF on Sunday 13th.
Wonder if there is any way to still sign up for the Scuderia Hanseat? I could fly there that weekend too...

PM Sent
 

Juha
PM Sent
/9MRSCS

We test the squirters on assembly and leave alone if they are functioning correctly, hence they are still there but have dropped back down inside the hole due to a lack of oil pressure.