mrsystems

I've decided its time to pony up the $$$ and do this conversion i've long wanted to do, convert the front bumper on my 96 993 C2 NB to a Turbo Euro Version with clear corner lights and delete the bumperettes.

I read that Gert's is the place to go to buy this part but I can't seem to locate where this Gert's place is, any help with that is appreciated. Or if you have another suggestion for where to get this factory OEM part that might be a little less expensive i'd like to know that as well.

Also, i read here in a previous post regarding extra parts needed for this conversion are:
liners are under $50 each (need 2)
brackets are a couple of bucks
weather stripping is $10 (one roll needed as you re-use most of the existing stuff)
water vents are a buck each (2 needed as they always break when pulling off of the old cover
Beading is about $40,
Clear Euro turn lenses are ~$120 for the set, including the yellow bulbs.

I will bring all the parts to my local Porsche friendly body shop so are some of these items things they'd already have or what EXACTLY is it i'd need to buy before the job begins?

I realize thats quite a few questions, any help is most appreciated

CorrdoBrit

Re: Gert. I think this is what you're looking for
http://www.carnewal.com/

Magdaddy

all due respect to Gert...Sunset is within your State, is it not? Shipping this part is stupid expensive because it is in such a big box. You could probably save a chunk of change by checking out Sunset's price's for the various parts needed.

No exchange rate, and probably some savings on shipping...unless your close enough to pick them up yourself.

Good luck

Arena993

^^ Depends on if he wants a Euro and not a US bumper. Sunset may be able to get the TT Euro version.

Mike

jo-hans

Just checking my email history and back in January 2008 Sunset was able to provide me with one and quoted me $1179. The grille was $30.48. That was the Porsche 993 Euro Turbo front bumper (without the knock outs for the bumperettes)
At the same time an OEM (primed) new one showed up on eBay and won the bid @ $700 including grill.
That was then......

Gert is in Belgium.

Kiwi01

Look for a post called "Euro Turbo front bumper install" by jhubs ...

If I remember correctly he has posted a list of all the parts. He did the fitting and had a shop do the painting. An interesting read if you are going to add that bumper.

mike cap

Evan,

These are my notes and may help you....

993 Turbo Bumper Cover Conversion
Changing the bumper cover on the C2 993 from the OEM the Turbo style is a great cosmetic improvement to the car. Following are some hints to do this mod quickly and professionally.

P-Car has great write-up for removing and reinstalling the bumper cover. With photos: http://p-car.com/diy/bumper/

Order the bumper cover (Euro with no bumperettes) from Carnewal: http://www.carnewal-europe.com/main.htm
Look under ‘Exterior’: Turbo Front Bumper Package For P93 Cars

Carnewal (Gert) will provide almost everything you’ll need, except new hardware.

Suggest purchase and install of Carnewal’s ‘front protection bar’. When I bought my kit, Gert included the FPB at no charge. When installing the bumper cover LEAVE OFF the lower ‘rail’ on the bottom. The FPB will fit in the slot a lot better. You’ll see this when you do the install. The FPB is very nice to have with a lowered suspension.


Turn Signals
Use bulbs that have a silver coating on the outside, so they can’t be seen through the clear lenses. They are amber when they flash, but not visible when off. Any good auto supply will have them.


Install Hints
Make sure to ‘dry fit’ the new bumper cover before paint. You want to make sure the fit is perfect, before putting paint on the new part.

When installing the black plastic ‘grill’ in the bumper cover, snap it into place very carefully. The slotted tabs break easily. I put a dab of black silicone sealer on the slot/snap, to prevent the holders from working loose.

The fender beading is a real PITA to install. I used Pliobond instead of staples and glued it slowly in place. I used cut up Starbucks stir sticks and binder clips to hold the glued beading in place. Worked great. Be patient.


Painting Notes
Make sure to provide the painter with your 993’s color code. In trunk near LH shock mount.

I had my painter fill the front license plate holes before painting. That way no plugs and a smooth surface for the ‘Stoneguard’. You will probably never have a front plate on your car, so why have holes? Easy for the painter to do while prepping the new bumper cover.


With the Bumper Cover Off
Change the a/c and oil cooler ballast resistors. They are tough to get to with the bumper cover off and impossible to reach with the bumper cover on. P-Car has a DIY.

Most times the foam sealing that helps keep air ducted throught the a/c and oil cooler fans is falling apart. Good time to replace this stuff.

My suggested list of hardware should include all the screws, brackets, etc. that you’ll need. A lot of this stuff on the car is corroded and is not worth reusing. My car had 20k on it and had been in the rain maybe ten times - and I wouldn’t re-use any of the hardware. Porsche buys the cheapest crap, apparently.

Take the time to clean up the area under the bumper cover. I repainted the area flat black as well.

Extra Parts and Hardware
You can re-use your existing front wheel housing liners, but the will have to be modified – drilled and cut out – to fit. The turbo bumper cover version car comes with a different forward wheel well liner. The rear wheel well liners (for the front wheels) can be used over. They are the same for the turbo bumper cover version car.

These are the ‘extra’ parts I ordered to do a professional install job for the turbo bumper cover:

1 – 993-504-125-01 wheel housing – LH.
1 – 993-504-126-01 wheel housing – RH
1 – 993-505-793-00 support bracket
1 – 993-505-794-00 support bracket
1 – 993-631-181-00 retaining bow
1 – 993-631-182-00 retaining bow
1 – 993-575-740-00 sealing
1 – 993-575-738-00 sealing
1 – 993-575-772-00 sealing – lower
2 – 993-631-141-01 vent drain – splitter bottom drain.
The old ones will break when you try and remove them

4 – 999-190-104-30 rivet
4 – 999-591-764-02 speed nut
6 – 999-591-699-02 speed nut
10 – 999-507-442-02 speed nut
8 – 999-073-081-02 tapping screw
10 – 900-187-103-02 screw
20 – 900-143-159-07 screw
10 – 900-143-113-07 screw
20 – 999-498-008-40 plastic nut
4 – 900-145-092-07 tapping screw
4 – 900-075-260-02 bolt
4 – N-011-666-7 washer
4 – 999-704-150-40 washer
10 – 999-591-485-02 speed nut

999-911-437-40-xxxmm sealing rubber – this is the weatherstripping that goes all around the wheel housing liner.

mike cap

Finished Product on my 1997 C2 like your car. Sweet.....

mrsystems

Yea I am not having it shipped from Belgium that is for sure. And Sunset is within driving distance from me, they were the first place i priced but thought it sounded high and wanted to get a few comps however i may just end up going back to Sunset. I can't seem to get a source that sells the cover WITH all the necessary parts besides Gerts, guess thats why he gets the big $$$

mrsystems

Thanks Mike, looks really nice! Those "extras" you ordered, how did you determine exactly what pieces would be needed ahead of time? Clearly i've never done something like this before, ha! THanks

Falcondrivr

Here's what your car will look like when you are done, in Grand Prix White, if you get brake ducts too:

Falcondrivr

double

mike cap

Evan,

It is a bit of a project and if you're OCD, somewhat time consuming. I'm surprised you didn't start this project in the winter, or do you drive your car year round?

When I did my conversion I did the disassembly and then ordered everything I needed using the PET. Bumper cover from Gert and all other Porsche OEM items from my parts supplier - a local Porsche dealer that I have a good relationship with. My list is complete and what you will need - the only 'overkill' items are the hardware - screws and fasteners.... but they are cheap and are used all over the car anyway.

Feel free to email me directly if you need a hand - m.capocefalo@aainy.com

mike cap

Falcondrivr,

That is a great looking car - nice photos.

JPS

Isn't Sunset's great pricing only if they ship? I thought there was some deal that locally they were same dealer pricing, but if they ship they give you "Internet pricing"? Maybe I'm wrong? Worth asking.