crw

I recently sold my 09 997 because:

- was able to sell it for what paid for after 2 years use
- was too "modern" for me - electronics, etc
- didn't want to take the depreciation once the 991 comes out

In retrospect, I should have bought a 993 - it would have fit my needs a bit better.

Here's my goal:

- driver
- use year round (including bad weather)
- use as a secondary car to my luxury vehicle (late model BMW)


I can mechanically do pretty much anything except engine work.

I am well edcuated to as to what to look for - leakdown, check strap, vales etc.

Just wondering:

C2S and C4S command a big premium (@$15K to $20K) - is it really worth it - I do not track cars, Also, I expect that the difference is pretty much minor cosmetic issues and not really related to street driving. Am I correct?

2 wheel drive vs. Carerra 4 - yes or no. I don't plan on drivng in the snow.

My goal here is a back up "fun" car, but not a trophy.

Budget for this is @ $40K +/-$5K

goofballdeluxe

So much of this comes down to personal preference.

Wanna convertible? If so, that leaves out the C2S/C4S. If you want the wide ***, then you go C2S/C4S and forgo the soft top. Some say that the "S" cars hold value better.

2WD/4WD really depends, again, on preference. Some like the added grip and stability of AWD, some wanna throw the tail out and the more traditional layout of the 2WD.

It's been said a million times, but I'd buy the nicest example I could find, regardless of 2WD/AWD. Answer the question of whether you want a convertible or not, and that will narrow down the choices. For $40K, you can find a really nice example.'

Good luck!

993/907

Tough problem to have....good for you!

Others disagree, but my opinion is the early 95's are the better 993's....no immobilizer and no SAI issues.
You will be limited to NB cars, however.

I prefer the 2wd cars, as they are about 140lbs lighter.
I have driven my 95 2wd year round for 16 years; winter driving is a blast, hanging the tail out.
For my driving style it's more about having good braking on slippery roads rather than having 4wd traction.....my 2wd has always been superb.

Those big butt cars are pretty though, I must admit.

Gordo

Kika

how bad is "bad weather"?

you say no snow, but if you have a lot of rain, 4wd might be nice to have, although it will handle differently than a 2wd car.

although I have never taken my 993 in snow, I have heard that all 911s are pretty good in show due to the weight being over the drive wheels.

I would say first decide on coupe or cab, then narrow it from there.

for your budget, you should be able to get a very nice car. look for one that has already had the top end done and you will be good for a long time.

tropheus

As a year round driver, depending where you live, I would go with a 4S. Should be in your budget with 40k. Especially in rain I like a additional grip.

Jack

vjd3

If the wide rear end doesn't mean much to you (it never has to me), get the narrowbody car.

I've owned both C2 and C4 coupes and cabs ... the C4 feels pretty much like a C2 to me, until the AWD actually gets involved, then it's nice to have, especially in rain or icy conditions. Otherwise it's remarkably transparent. Same price, I would opt for the C4.

Have fun searching!

ryano

+993 with Vic. If the wide body doesnt matter to you and you arent looking for a garage queen the C2/C4 might be best for you.

deadhead1960

Premiums for WB cars run about $10k on average.

"Is it really worth it." Too subjective a question to even answer however to some, "yes" and to many, "no."

"I do not track cars." Are you implying the wide bodies track better? I'm not a track guy however that was not my understanding. I'm sure others will comment.

993MAN

Would'nt it just be best to drive them all and see which one you like the most?
Performance wise there's nothing in it (unless you go for a TT) so it probably just comes down to looks and personal preference.
I do agree that for looks the S cars are georgeous to look at.
Good luck, and well done selling the 997 with no loss. That's amazing.
Cheers

race911

Nothing to add, other than to confirm that you'll buy the one that you're drawn to.

tcsracing1

Easy.

You want a C4, 6 speed. If you want the wide body and turbo twist wheels then simply look for an S variant of the C4.

Done.


For all weather use you cant beat the C4. Heavy rain etc...
As a secondary car im willing to bet the BMW is automatic therefore you should have a 6 speed porsche for fun as two automatic cars are defeating the purpose of having two cars.

911Dave

A couple things to note.

With the C4S, you get turbo brakes (big reds) in addition to the wide body. C2S comes with standard (little blacks) brakes. C4S also has ABD traction control as standard equipment, optional on C2S.

The C2S comes with a split rear grill in matched body color, whereas the C4S comes with the standard black grill. Lots of guys think this is a cool feature worth having, though it doesn't matter to me. C2S also comes with aluminum-trimmed shifter and brake handle, whereas as the C4S has the standard leather items. There may be a couple of other minor differences I'm forgetting as well.

The AWD "4" cars are in 2WD mode 99.9% of the time, and therefore handle like 2WD cars except they have perhaps even slightly better balance because the front differential and axles improve the front/rear weight difference. Whether or not that can be felt depends on your driving style and ability. Only when the rear wheels slip does any torque get transferred to the front axles via the viscous coupling. Even then, a max of 40% gets transferred to the front. Transferring torque to all 4 tire contact patches improves traction on a dry road as well as wet/icy road, especially in cornering.

For all weather driving, you cannot beat a "4" or a turbo (which is also AWD). Whether or not the wide body, bigger brakes and ABD system (or split rear grill in the case of the 2S) is worth the $10k-15k premium is entirely a personal matter. For me, it was worth it. Remember that the premium you pay for an S will be returned to you when you sell the car later on, so it's actually costing you very little in the big scheme. If you keep the car forever, it makes even more sense in my opinion, in terms of owner satisfaction.

NC TRACKRAT

Depends on where you live and how bad the weather gets. It's kinda like attraction to "wimmen"...You'll know the right one when you see it. Personally, I'd use the BMW for the daily driver/beater and keep the 993 for fun and nice days. In the long run, the Porsche will keep its value. The BMW won't...unless it's a 507, 328 or an M1.

95 NC 993

You probably would be fine getting a C2, and with $40,000, a really nice one! No snow is the key. Also, if you do want a cab, make sure everything is tight if you plan on driving in the rain a lot. Leaks, even slight ones, can be a real pain if the car is sitting outside all day in a rain storm. Good luck finding the right car!

x50type

crw

I recently sold my 09 997 because:

- was able to sell it for what paid for after 2 years use

Is that not terribly rare? How did you manage that?