Bringing self purchased parts to indy?
#1
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Bringing self purchased parts to indy?
I've seen a couple recent threads where people have mentioned bring parts to their indy mechanics.
I'm wondering if most people do this. From what I've heard, indys loath when people do this, but quite frankly, I can understand the large cost savings. I've also heard the "you don't bring your steak to the restaurant to have the chef cook it, do ya" argument.
So, do you do this? How does your indy react?
I'm wondering if most people do this. From what I've heard, indys loath when people do this, but quite frankly, I can understand the large cost savings. I've also heard the "you don't bring your steak to the restaurant to have the chef cook it, do ya" argument.
So, do you do this? How does your indy react?
#2
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I've done it in the past, but not recently. I found that the best way to avoid a conflict was to check with the shop in advance of arriving at the shop with parts in hand. That way no one is surprised. The shop is free to say, "No" and you're free to find another shop if you don't like the response.
As an aside, while profit may be a concern, I would say that there is also the concern of getting the car in a bay or on a rack, getting it apart, and then finding that the parts the owner provided aren't exactly right, leaving things tied up until the correct parts are obtained.
Terry
As an aside, while profit may be a concern, I would say that there is also the concern of getting the car in a bay or on a rack, getting it apart, and then finding that the parts the owner provided aren't exactly right, leaving things tied up until the correct parts are obtained.
Terry
#3
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IMO it's little iffy and I can certainly understand shops being not so happy about it.
At least I'd suggest pricing the parts online and then going to your regular indy with that info and asking what price he can do.
There's a chance he can match your price and still make some profit so it would be better for both parties.
I rather pay little extra to the local shop to keep him in business since/if I'm using his services. I won't pay huge extra but if I can get parts for $800 online, I'd happily pay $850-900 to the guy who (reasonably priced and professionally) installs them.
At least I'd suggest pricing the parts online and then going to your regular indy with that info and asking what price he can do.
There's a chance he can match your price and still make some profit so it would be better for both parties.
I rather pay little extra to the local shop to keep him in business since/if I'm using his services. I won't pay huge extra but if I can get parts for $800 online, I'd happily pay $850-900 to the guy who (reasonably priced and professionally) installs them.
#4
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Did it once-got away with it because I was a newbie but my indy will not install parts he didn't purchase. I have no problem with that.
#5
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I've done it in the past, but not recently. I found that the best way to avoid a conflict was to check with the shop in advance of arriving at the shop with parts in hand. That way no one is surprised. The shop is free to say, "No" and you're free to find another shop if you don't like the response.
As an aside, while profit may be a concern, I would say that there is also the concern of getting the car in a bay or on a rack, getting it apart, and then finding that the parts the owner provided aren't exactly right, leaving things tied up until the correct parts are obtained.
Terry
As an aside, while profit may be a concern, I would say that there is also the concern of getting the car in a bay or on a rack, getting it apart, and then finding that the parts the owner provided aren't exactly right, leaving things tied up until the correct parts are obtained.
Terry
IMO it's little iffy and I can certainly understand shops being not so happy about it.
At least I'd suggest pricing the parts online and then going to your regular indy with that info and asking what price he can do.
There's a chance he can match your price and still make some profit so it would be better for both parties.
I rather pay little extra to the local shop to keep him in business since/if I'm using his services. I won't pay huge extra but if I can get parts for $800 online, I'd happily pay $850-900 to the guy who (reasonably priced and professionally) installs them.
At least I'd suggest pricing the parts online and then going to your regular indy with that info and asking what price he can do.
There's a chance he can match your price and still make some profit so it would be better for both parties.
I rather pay little extra to the local shop to keep him in business since/if I'm using his services. I won't pay huge extra but if I can get parts for $800 online, I'd happily pay $850-900 to the guy who (reasonably priced and professionally) installs them.
I'm doing an evaporator soon, and I want to do the griffiths version, which is about $550. I got a quote for the same part at $800.
The $250 difference isn't killing me, but it still seems a bit wasteful.
#7
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Yes, discuss it with the guy. I always worked around the "problem" by adjusting my labor rate to what he would have paid if I gave him a "best price" on the parts. Say $650-700 on the item in question here. But the POS 911s I was working on were average driver types owned by average working stiffs.
Bottom line is that you don't have a $1.99 car here, and it's pretty much an insult to chisel a guy who's likely driving a whole lot less than you for a couple hundred difference.
Bottom line is that you don't have a $1.99 car here, and it's pretty much an insult to chisel a guy who's likely driving a whole lot less than you for a couple hundred difference.
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#8
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Yes, discuss it with the guy. I always worked around the "problem" by adjusting my labor rate to what he would have paid if I gave him a "best price" on the parts. Say $650-700 on the item in question here. But the POS 911s I was working on were average driver types owned by average working stiffs.
Bottom line is that you don't have a $1.99 car here, and it's pretty much an insult to chisel a guy who's likely driving a whole lot less than you for a couple hundred difference.
Bottom line is that you don't have a $1.99 car here, and it's pretty much an insult to chisel a guy who's likely driving a whole lot less than you for a couple hundred difference.
#9
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Remember the shop won't warranty parts you bring in and they install. If a part fails you'll have to pay to have a replacement installed (again) and have the hassle of trying to get a refund from the supplier. I think its not worth saving 10-20% over. Then again if the mechanic is gouging on parts prices and won't work with you then its probably a good idea to look elsewhere.
#10
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In any case, would you go into the Apple store/Nordstrom/Whole Foods and say that their 50% markups on cost are steep? Anyone else here with a retail business, feel free to correct me.
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I discussed this with my indy before ordering the parts and he told me this would help them out considerably. I knew what was needed and told him that I would bring the parts with the car and he agreed that it would save time and money. I feel that you are right that some mechanics don't like when you bring in your own parts but it seems to be up to the individual mechanic. I also think that it depends on the person, I know what I needed to purchase, some people don't and that is when it becomes a headache for the indy...
#13
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^^^^^ Me too. Lot of assumptions there regarding Porsche owners, not to mention shop owners and their rides. The indy I use to wrench on my Audi A3 has boats, ATV's and a ranch in East TX where he hunts boar and he rides around in a brand new Toyota truck that cost more than my 'garage queen' 993.
#14
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It depends on what the part is. My mechanic (www.gtperformanceinc.com) allows customers to provide parts, a terrific option since I am often very specific about what I want or maybe the part is a used piece or one that I picked up on Rennlist such as my RS LWF or my Guards LSD. If something is broken (rare in the case of my car), I'll let my shop find the part and won't bother to shop the price, for I know he'll be very fair about what he charges.
#15
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Just ask your shop. The shops I work with are fine with my providing the parts since it's less work for them. I suspect that their markup typically just covers their time procuring the parts, which explains why they don't care one way or the other.