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Old 02-16-2011, 02:08 AM
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Default Sound Pad Adhesive?

My engine bay sound pad is slightly lifting at the leading edges. I know there is a modification one can fashion out of aluminium but wondering what the factory used as adhesive (or comparable replacement) as its not too bad right now.
Old 02-16-2011, 06:09 AM
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Maybe Pliobond...I used it for my headliner around the sunroof with good results.
Old 02-16-2011, 07:13 AM
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I installed a new pad when I refreshed the Rivi Blue Cab. I used 3M High Tack Adhesive. Comes is a aerosol can. IIRC it also comes in a brush on application as well

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Mike,

Did you install the pad with the motor installed, or had you pulled the motor? If the motor was in the car, how much of a PITA was it to remove and replace the sound pad? I have had them replaced with the engine out, which is pretty easy....but that was on an older 911 when pulling the engine was a 1 hour exercise, not the task that exists with the newer cars.
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Motor pulled. Really the only way. To do it properly. I have never done one while the engine was in the car. Some people remove the pad entirely.

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Old 02-16-2011, 11:48 AM
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Use Pliobond. 3M will not take the heat and will get loose and sticky. If it's just coming down at the edges you can peel it back and use a battery brush to apply the Pliobond. I cut pieces of cardboard and wedged them in against the engine intake to hold the pad and fresh adhesive in place. Worked great.
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Sounds good. Where can I buy Pliobond? Looking at Amazon there are a couple of different types.

Yes, it is only around the edges. Otherwise the pad is in good shape
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Pliobond is permanent. What if I want to replace the sound pad in the future?
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There is only one type of Pliobond contact adhesive. There is a 1/2 pint can and I think smaller glass bottles. It is all the same. Trust me, this is the adhesive to use. You will have a mess with anything else, especially the 3M Trim Adhesive. This is the only contact adhesive we use for industrial and aircraft applications. I have used it on the plane and car and it it permanent.

Getting it off will be like removing the sound pad under the carpets or the carpets themselves - a real PITA involving toxic chemicals and a respirator.....

Good luck.
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good deal! Thanks for the info.
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Glad to help. Use Pliobond and the cardboard trick and you'll never have to touch the pad again. It is ugly when it sags. I did mine 5 years ago and 20,000 miles and it is still perfect. Pliobond is bullet proof.... just don't glue your fingers together !! BTW, nice looking car, garage... it's gotta suck though living in Venice Beach....
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Recently, there was a question/response on this topic, but for an earlier car, in the technical Q&A in recent a recent issue of either Excellence or Panorama. It did not sound like fun with the engine in place...Apparently, because the recommended adhesive is essentially contact cement, you have one shot to get it right and if you don't, you get to start all over.
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Ben's pad is sagging at the back (leading edge he called it). If you get some light in there, pull the pad down till you get to the part that is still glued in place, use Pliobond and brace in place with cardboard, you're all set. Just takes some patience and small hands. It's not rocket science.
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Thanks for the words of advice. I just ordered some off Amazon. I should change my profile pic though. That pic was when I bought the car from Richard Sloan. It doesn't have that amazing garage anymore (it is garaged though) and no tint!
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Ben - false advertising !! I thought the garage door opened out on to the beach.

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