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mpgandco 01-13-2011 01:31 PM

Huge Traffic fine increase in California
 
I thought I would share this info.




State of California is broke and they are trying hard to squeeze all of us hard to collect money.

Effective immediately, if you do not stop at the red light, be ready to pay $436 in fines or if you pass a school bus with flashing red signals, you will be charged $616. The state of California is going for blood, so be extra careful in driving, you cannot afford messing with them. I have been hearing that Highway Patrols are under pressure to issue a lot more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over 2009, so beware of radar guns, highway and traffic cameras installed everywhere and the tougher enforcement of parking rules.


Just for your info, the next time you park in the handicapped zone, even for a minute, you will be looking at almost $ 1000 in parking tickets , so it'd better be worth it.

California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the road!

Traffic Ticket Fines (Effective 01/06/2011)

VC 12814.6 $214 Failure to obey license provisions.

VC 14600(A) $214 Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 days (Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.


VC 16028(A) $796 Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance) Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the violation date.


VC 21453(A) $436 Failure to stop at a red signal.


VC 22349 $214 Unsafe speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit.

VC 22350 $328 Unsafe speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit.

VC 22450 $214 Failure to stop at a stop sign.

VC 22454(A) $616 Passing a school bus with flashing red signals.

VC 23123(A) $148 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, first offense .

VC 23123(B) $256 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, each subsequent offense.

VC 23123.5 $148 Driving while using a wireless device to send, read or write text.

VC 23124 $148 Minor driving while using a wireless phone.

VC 22500 $976 Parking in a bus loading area.

VC 22507(A) $976 Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense.

VC 22507(B) $1876 Violation of disabled parking provisions, second offense.

VC 26708 $178 Unlawful material on vehicle windows. (Presumably political stuff!)

VC 27150 $178 Adequate muffler required. (Exhaust silencer! Boy racers?)

VC 27315 $148 Mandatory use of seat belts.

VC 27360 $436 Mandatory use of passenger child restraints. Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program.

VC 27400 $178 Headsets or Earplugs covering both ears. (Seen that in UK!)

VC 27803 $178 Violation of motorcycle safety helmet requirements.

VC 34506 $616 Commercial Driver - Log book violation.

VC 4000 $256 No evidence of current registration. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.


VC 4159 $178 Notify DMV of change of address within 10 days. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 5200 $178 Proper display of license plates. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction.

VC 9400 $178 Commercial weight fees due.

goofballdeluxe 01-13-2011 02:32 PM

We live in the society we feared of having. It's a rough trade to live in a country in decline.

pcar964 01-13-2011 02:39 PM

California is the bow of the sinking ship. Will be an interesting decade that's for certain.

CorrdoBrit 01-13-2011 02:48 PM

3 of my favs. I'm all for these and being a motorcyclist feel its not a big enough deterrent.

VC 23123(A) $148 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, first offense .

VC 23123(B) $256 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, each subsequent offense.

VC 23123.5 $148 Driving while using a wireless device to send, read or write text.

Axeman 01-13-2011 02:56 PM

Just plain ridiculous..I got a ticket last year for doing 10mph over speed posted (3 lane highway, speed limit 45mph everyone does 65-70 all day, was going 55mph), the ticket was $60-70 but after adding up court fees it came out to $330!! I have more respect for a bank robber than this government.

IXLR8 01-13-2011 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by CorrdoBrit (Post 8209149)
3 of my favs. I'm all for these and being a motorcyclist feel its not a big enough deterrent.

VC 23123(A) $148 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, first offense .

VC 23123(B) $256 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, each subsequent offense.

VC 23123.5 $148 Driving while using a wireless device to send, read or write text.

If it wasn't for one of those bozos, I would have never ended up with a 993.

The above three are far worse than going 20 over, yet the fines are less or in line. Go figure. Do you think the mobile phone industry lobbyists had something to do with it?

CorrdoBrit 01-13-2011 03:13 PM

You and me both. I've hardly used the bike since getting my 993. This was the whole premise for getting the P-car, and I'm actually surprised how easy its been to transition over. Guess I was ready.

Use of cell phones in cars without hands free handsets should be banned, full stop. Every State should be following the lead of NY.

TheBen 01-13-2011 04:26 PM

I've noticed a lot more police out and about ticketing drivers lately too!

NEK 01-13-2011 04:37 PM

Wish I were a California contracted collection firm. They are the only ones who will benefit (hugely) from this stupidity.

matt777 01-13-2011 04:45 PM

I've never been to California so my opinion doesn't count but I don't have a problem with the big fine for passing a school bus with flashing red signals.

Ed Burdell 01-13-2011 04:56 PM

Is hands free really that much of a panacea? What I really object to are the few folks who clearly can't walk and chew gum at the same time trying to talk and drive. Whether handset, headset, or passenger, the distraction exists. Having said that, I am by no means advocating banning the use of cell phones by drivers, for most folks can handle it. Texting while driving is another story altogether - very few people can text without looking at what they're typing.

Canyon56 01-13-2011 06:01 PM

So what's the point of the thread? That people should be upset that they can't run red lights or pass stopped school buses on the cheap anymore? ;)

Aside from speed limits which I think are archaic, why not fine people enough money to where they'll think twice about running lights and stop signs and texting and yelling on their cellphones.

Accidents are caused by crappy and inattentive drivers and they should be fined heavily for driving crappy and not paying attention.

And that's the reason behind speed limits, too. Crappy drivers who can't drive fast and pay attention at the same time.

I'd personally rather live where there is some design on traffic flow and accident reduction and enforcement of that design. Living in the Wild West on my horse was too stressful for me :biggulp:

Leander 01-13-2011 06:03 PM

It looks like the terrorists won, after all. Our way of life has inexorably changed for the worse.

goofballdeluxe 01-13-2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Canyon56 (Post 8209767)
So what's the point of the thread? That people should be upset that they can't run red lights or pass stopped school buses on the cheap anymore? ;)

Aside from speed limits which I think are archaic, why not fine people enough money to where they'll think twice about running lights and stop signs and texting and yelling on their cellphones.

Accidents are caused by crappy and inattentive drivers and they should be fined heavily for driving crappy and not paying attention.

And that's the reason behind speed limits, too. Crappy drivers who can't drive fast and pay attention at the same time.

I'd personally rather live where there is some design on traffic flow and accident reduction and enforcement of that design. Living in the Wild West on my horse was too stressful for me :biggulp:

In theory, I agree.

But the reality is most cops exploit traffic rules to increase revenue these days, not safety. Otherwise, the punishments for texting would match those of a DUI. I guess the wireless phone industry has more money to throw at the politicians than MADD.

And although it's not PC to say so, all the DUI "don't drink and drive" BS has little to do with safety: there were only a few hundred deaths in CA last year because of drinking/driving. It's all about the tens of millions of revenue it provides for the State, nothing else.

2Many Cars 01-13-2011 07:07 PM

If those fines bother you don't move to Finland, they base the amount of the fine on your income. IIRC not long ago the CEO of Nokia was facing a five digit speeding fine.


I'm actually OK with these fine increases as long as they are enforced fairly and uniformly. It's when the troopers stop some speeders at 5 mph over and then later don't stop others going >10 mph over that I get upset.


Use of cell phones in cars without hands free handsets should be banned, full stop. Every State should be following the lead of NY.
That's the law in CA too. In addition drivers under 21 can't legally use cell phones at all, hands free or not, and texting isn't legal while driving for any age driver. Doesn't mean people don't still do it though.


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