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jackal2513 03-27-2010 09:39 AM

g50/31 box
 
does anyone know if a regular C2 box can be converted to a 31 or 32 by changing the gearsets/shafts etc. ?

Bill Verburg 03-27-2010 10:33 AM

All of the /20 & /21 can have 3-6 changed easily enough, 1 & sometimes 2 are integral w/ the main shaft, the changeover trans #s are
G50.20 - 02693
G50.20 - 02174 (M220)
G50.21 - 05072
G50.21 - 03094 (M220)
before only 1 is fixed after 1 & 2 are fixed, to change them a new mainshaft is required(last price I saw Was ~$2000, I'me sure it's much more now)

The Motorsports boxes, /30 -/33 have loose gears in all positions 1-6

Many choose to leave the main shaft alone and change 3-6 and that works but isn'e really an optimal way to do it.

jackal2513 03-27-2010 10:47 AM

thx Bill, can you actually still order a complete 31 or 32 box from Porsche ? They much be huge money if you can ?

Bill Verburg 03-27-2010 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by jackal2513 (Post 7431217)
thx Bill, can you actually still order a complete 31 or 32 box from Porsche ? They much be huge money if you can ?

There was alimited supply as recently as last fall. Buying a /31 or /32 is the way to go as you get all the other upgrades like steel syncros and stronger shift forks.

/31 is 1 step up from /21 which is a step up from /20

/32 has more good stuff and better gearing

/30 has the most good internals and the best gearing but isn't going to be generally available

JM993 03-27-2010 12:50 PM

I just did this last year. I agree with Bill, better (and actually way more cost effective) to simply sell your old box and buy a g50/31. In addition you also get a Porsche Motorsports LSD. As a bonus, I'm guessing your old box is a g50/21, which will be easy to sell for top $$$.

Here's a link to my impressions of the new gearbox:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=21390

Cheers,
Joe

GTgears 03-27-2010 01:40 PM

A member on Pelican recently priced one out of Germany. It was more than $12,000 plus shipping. You could build one to that spec for less than that.

jackal2513 03-27-2010 02:09 PM

thanks guys

roughly how much for a 50/31 then ??

and how much could i sell my standard carrera 2 box for

Bill Verburg 03-27-2010 02:10 PM

Last prices I saw
/32 north of $12k w/ a like exchange
/31 $north od $6.5k w/ a like exchange

I'm sure that jmarch has better #s

[QUOTE]You could build one to that spec for less than that/QUOTE]
So could you price one out at current prices
w/
new mainshaft, steel syncros, billet forks, billet shift spindle

last prices I saw a few years ago was
$1950 mainshaft
$750 2nd gear set
$695 3-6 gear sets
$2350 for 40/60 lsd
h/d 1/2 shift fork $199
h/d sbillet shift spindle $275bearing kits ~$140 each

jackal2513 03-27-2010 02:15 PM

so thats $6.5k for a 31 including in excahnging my current box

i wonder what that will be in the UK

is this from Porsche themselves ?

NineMeister 03-27-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by jackal2513 (Post 7431595)
so thats $6.5k for a 31 including in excahnging my current box

i wonder what that will be in the UK

is this from Porsche themselves ?

The last time I priced up building one with original parts, the parts bill alone from Porsche came to just under £6k +VAT and the last used one we found sold for around £8k +VAT. I would think that you could build an equivalent box for maybe £5-6k with slight variations on the ratios, however I think a better plan may be to consider a used 996GT3 gearbox and fit the cable change gearlever to match.

CalvinC4S 03-27-2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by NineMeister (Post 7431666)
fit the cable change gearlever to match.

Cables to a gear box are a lot like condoms.

clubsport1 03-27-2010 04:21 PM

A change of heart Jackal???
I saw your discussion on a P/heads about gear ratios, where you thought the standard ratios were better for your use of the car....Even if it did surprise me.
There are always people looking for these, some end up in Ultimas with big power etc....

For some reason the previous owner had the /32 in mine rebuilt at an OPC in 2001, remove, rebuild, refit was £11k!!!.....glad I didn't have to pay that particular bill!!!

Cactus 03-27-2010 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by CalvinC4S (Post 7431718)
Cables to a gear box are a lot like condoms.

****ty?

CalvinC4S 03-27-2010 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Cactus (Post 7431798)
****ty?

Just can't feel much, not the same.

jackal2513 03-27-2010 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by clubsport1 (Post 7431794)
A change of heart Jackal???
I saw your discussion on a P/heads about gear ratios, where you thought the standard ratios were better for your use of the car....Even if it did surprise me.
There are always people looking for these, some end up in Ultimas with big power etc....

For some reason the previous owner had the /32 in mine rebuilt at an OPC in 2001, remove, rebuild, refit was £11k!!!.....glad I didn't have to pay that particular bill!!!


thinking ahead & want to know my options

depends if i go the whole hog and do buckets, cage etc.. or keep it more as an all day, every day car... and this in turn depends on what my next car is etc.. so all part of the bigger picture


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