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Old 03-17-2010, 01:01 PM
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See my post at #11 for what I think caused the failure.

Trailer tires in 245/75-16 are 8 ply. Though load rating is similar to a "truck tire" 10 ply. There isn't enough fender clearance to go to 235/85-16.

I've been towing an enclosed for almost 15 years, and though my activity has slowed I've probably got about 70K towing miles up and down California.
Old 03-17-2010, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by race911
See my post at #11 for what I think caused the failure.

Trailer tires in 245/75-16 are 8 ply. Though load rating is similar to a "truck tire" 10 ply. There isn't enough fender clearance to go to 235/85-16.

I've been towing an enclosed for almost 15 years, and though my activity has slowed I've probably got about 70K towing miles up and down California.
Sorry I was thinking that a screw rubbed the tire... but I didn't see any cuts in the circumference of the tire. Looks like the cut is across the tread, but you can diagnose better 'cause you have the tire and I only have a picture. Won't stop me from playing a tire doctor on the internet though.

Bummer that the 10 ply 235/80 wouldn't fit. Its load range E (10ply) is 3420 lbs vs 2540 for 8 ply load range D. (Goodyear marathon numbers, YMMV)
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Just noticed you said 235/85. You know they come in 235/80 as well?
245/75 = 30.5" diameter
235/80 = 30.8"
235/85 = 31.7"

Maybe a "235/80" would fit?
Old 03-17-2010, 04:33 PM
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Tire with the backed out screw damage is still on the trailer.

10 ply truck tires seem to split the difference @ 3140lbs.
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Originally Posted by DanQ
Just noticed you said 235/85. You know they come in 235/80 as well?
245/75 = 30.5" diameter
235/80 = 30.8"
235/85 = 31.7"

Maybe a "235/80" would fit?
Of course. Plainly obvious now that I looked on Carlilse's site. I was NOT familiar with this size.
Old 03-17-2010, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 007DT
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Looks like that one was overdue to be changed based on the wear? Hopefully that didn't delay the long pull home for you too much?!
Actually no. The tread was still a plenty on the tires. I took one off that looked worse so I'd make it back with no issues. That didn't work so well and the crappy tire ended up going back on making it back just fine.

Only took a few minutes to swap out. I had the jack and spare rim ready in the back of the truck so i wouldn't have to dig through the stuff in the trailer Only the second time in all my years of towing that I've had a blow out. Must have sensed it was my time again

That's what I get for having china made crap on my wheels. Carlisle are made in USA, lets see how they pan out over time
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Originally Posted by 993inNC
That's what I get for having china made crap on my wheels. Carlisle are made in USA, lets see how they pan out over time

I'm not so sure, I did a little searching and found:
Carlisle makes their bias-ply ST tires in the U.S., radials in China.
It seems like goodyear may have brought back production to the USA since I looked last year or year before.. I guess my point is to look VERY closely at country of origin regardless of the mfgr..

Let me put a plug in to check tire pressure often too. high ply tires use high pressure 60-80 psi depending on size and load.
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I'm getting the USA Trail, its an 8 ply bias ply and is stamped Made in USA (or at least the one I have now is). But you're right, you really have to do your homework. I am trying hard to be on a general China boycott. This country is turning to shee shee and its on our backs and with our dollars! Enough!

Rant over
Old 03-18-2010, 10:16 PM
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WOW though tires are completely shredded..I'm glad that didn't hurt anybody because that looks horrible!
Old 03-18-2010, 10:32 PM
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Chris - are those the tires you put on the trailer less than 2 years ago when you were here in FLA?!?!?!?
Old 03-19-2010, 08:01 AM
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No Rob, but those didn't hold up well at all either. I still have those and are what's coming off for the newest Carlisles. I'm beginning to think the radials are built to much like a car tire and to much emphasis is put on trying to create a cushy ride. I don't care if it rolls like a brick as long as the damn things hold up!



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