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Old 05-28-2013, 11:30 PM
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You guys need to move to Colorado...unless your from Texas or California
Old 05-29-2013, 01:30 AM
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3 year old thread resurrected. WOW.
Old 05-29-2013, 04:39 AM
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Anyone tried to seal the windows with silicon or something else to prevent the waterproblem?
Old 05-29-2013, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by aribop
3 year old thread resurrected. WOW.
I searched and couldn't find my answer but this thread hadn't been bumped in a while and contains some great info and pics for new owners or prospective owners.

Originally Posted by Beretta
Anyone tried to seal the windows with silicon or something else to prevent the waterproblem?
Bruce 7 did a fantastic write up.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ar-window.html

There was one comment that the windshield might be harder to remove in the future? No experience if that is true or not just read that comment. So combining it with a new windshield install might be strategic, if true.


Anybody pulling out their front windshield corners to dry the channels?
Old 05-29-2013, 11:17 AM
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Yes - a known 911 issue from way back. Then again any 15 or so year old car that spent some time in the Northern states will see stuff like this.
Old 05-29-2013, 12:22 PM
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I gently pull up the seal of each corner and use a wet/dry vac rather than compressed air. Didn't want to push the water any further into crevices. I wonder what the long term effects of filling the corner void would be, as previously mentioned with silicone? Wonder if doing something like this might actually make things worse by providing a moisture trap.

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by il pirata
You guys need to move to Colorado...unless your from Texas or California
My '95 coupe lived it's entire life in Las Vegas .. Casino executive owned so always parked during the day in underground garage out of heat/sun .. and it had as much hidden damage under the seal as Colin's first pictures in the thread showed .. bodyshop found cuts through paint/primer from windshield replacement was the catalyst.

Originally Posted by 1pcarnut
I wonder what the long term effects of filling the corner void would be, as previously mentioned with silicone? Wonder is doing something like this might actually make things worse by providing a moisture trap.
I've been told that silicone will react with the factory seal and destroy it .. I believe that IF the glass/seal install is done correctly without damaging the paint, then the seal works perfectly.
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Please take heed of this advise:

Do not put silicone sealant anywhere near the bodywork of your 993!!!!!

Silicone sealant contains acetic acid which gives it that vinegar smell, when it cures the acid leeches out and attacks the steel of the body. If you must apply sealant to a windscreen use windscreen seal or PU (polyurethane) adhesive only.
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Originally Posted by NineMeister
Please take heed of this advise:

Do not put silicone sealant anywhere near the bodywork of your 993!!!!!

Silicone sealant contains acetic acid which gives it that vinegar smell, when it cures the acid leeches out and attacks the steel of the body. If you must apply sealant to a windscreen use windscreen seal or PU (polyurethane) adhesive only.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:53 PM
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This thread is very scary. Yikes!

Take care,
Old 05-29-2013, 04:25 PM
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wow, I'm shocked by this (not really).

I thought porsche engineers were smart people.
Old 05-29-2013, 04:31 PM
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This entire issue would be a non issue if there were weep holes for any moisture to drain instead of being trapped behind.
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More horror pictures only discovered the leak and subsequent source after I had purchased the car - buyers beware

All fixed now
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:14 PM
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I just had both my front and rear windows pulled, and had the rust repaired. Nowhere as bad as these pics, but still required welding in new pieces. Car had the original windows, so it wasn't due to scratching the paint in the frame, and the car was never driven in rain ever. Just something that happens I guess. Ended up costing me $2800 Canadian to fix, not including any windows, just bodywork, paint, and new seals front/ rear.
Old 05-29-2013, 07:16 PM
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Yikes!! Those shots are tough to look at.
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