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Old 03-07-2010, 06:10 PM
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Default DIY Ignition Wire Set

Edited to add: Update on post #38 on page 3.

Edited to add: Update on post #49 on page 4. Details are provided on producing the wire ends.

Has anybody made up a set?

Looking at my 15 year old wires, there really is nothing wrong with the spark plug connectors (rubber and terminals are like new), but the cable is starting to show hairline cracks in the bends.


I unscrewed one spark plug connector and found a wire terminal crimped onto the end of the wire, one that I've never seen before.

It appears to be an M3 Thread Sleeve. These are available in packs of 10 to 100. I would assume that I'd need 28 of them.



The cable appears to be Beru 7mm Copper Cable Ignition Cable. A 25 meter (82 foot) roll runs for $165.

The downside is the price of the crimping tool...$325. Does anyone have one to rent out?

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Several of us thought about going in on that tool & wire spool, but just couldn't validate the cost after finding this guy who makes sets (w/o boots) for about $150/each:
Mark Robinson
porschesolutions@gmail.com

A search here will pull up some info on him I'm sure...like this one...and more to be found
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...e-139-set.html
And here's a related thread on "that other board"...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...red-black.html
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Originally Posted by kjr914
Several of us thought about going in on that tool & wire spool, but just couldn't validate the cost.
Well the tool, spool and ends are less than the cost of a wire set which is about $500 right now.

Thats something I'll consider.
Old 03-07-2010, 07:52 PM
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The rubber boot on the plug is not just a boot, it is also a resistor.
You can test them with an ohmmeter. They can fail...

a complete Beru wire set can be found for about $430
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Originally Posted by MarkD
The rubber boot on the plug is not just a boot, it is also a resistor. You can test them with an ohmmeter. They can fail...
Quite true, but they are available separately as well.


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A complete Beru wire set can be found for about $430
I've checked a few sites. Where from?
Old 03-07-2010, 08:03 PM
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I went in on the group buy from Porschesoultuions a couple of months back and was very pleased. Correct length replacement wires made it a fairly easy DIY. I'm glad I didn't buy the new complete set for almost $500. I believe that even with the new complete set you would still have to take off the spark plug end to do the installation with the engine in the car.
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Originally Posted by randytrish
I went in on the group buy from Porschesoultuions a couple of months back and was very pleased. Correct length replacement wires made it a fairly easy DIY. I'm glad I didn't buy the new complete set for almost $500. I believe that even with the new complete set you would still have to take off the spark plug end to do the installation with the engine in the car.
the Beru wire sets not only have the boot/resistors on them but even come in the looms. Makes it much easier to install...

still, they are pricey!
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Guys factor in the time & total PITA it is to change out the wires, & it's a no brainer on getting a whole new wire set. Hell they last for 10-15 years!

First timer, plan on 6-8 hours to change out the wires. You got to basically remove the intake plenum to get at the wires, plus pulling through all the engine tins.

My point is, if you make them, & mess up even a bit, you will be in your 20+hours of labor, even at your free labor, that's a lot of time then if you just got new wires in the first place.
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
I've checked a few sites. Where from?
Did you try autohausaz?
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Originally Posted by Stealth 993
My point is, if you make them, & mess up even a bit, you will be in your 20+hours of labor, even at your free labor, that's a lot of time then if you just got new wires in the first place.
I hear what you are saying, but it would be really hard to mess up making your own set of wires using the proper parts and tools.

I've been wrenching since I was 13 and I remember putting in a new set of Bosch points and condensor in my mom's '67 VW Beetle. Upon completion of the tune-up, it would not start and I was going nuts trying to figure it out...incredibly, the fault was with the new set of Bosch points that I installed. New and factory assembled does not guarrantee it will work.
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Did you try autohausaz?
Thanks. I forgot to check them out. However, someone PMed me with a better price.

That Beru wire set really is over the top. What is Beru smoking? Its not like the high-voltage wire is the stuff used in the heads up display in fighter helmets.
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Try Vertex : http://www.vertexauto.com/ShowItem/4...ead%20Set.aspx
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thats where I got mine, no aff. but was very happy


http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt259_...ion-Lead-Sets/
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
I hear what you are saying, but it would be really hard to mess up making your own set of wires using the proper parts and tools.
Yes, I agree some one who knows what they are doing with the proper tools is going to be hard pressed to mess up. My only thing would be either purchased or home made to never have to do the job again. It was not a satisfying DIY changing the wires.
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Fister has good prices too.


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