pp000830

Buy your own filters crush rings, O ring online and oil from Wall-Mart and go to a quick oil change place. Show them where the filters and two drain plugs are and advise them to only refill with 8 quarts of oil and to not over tighten plug on oil tank. At home. warm up you car and add oil as needed if guage does not float past midpoint when engine is hot. Once you guide them they will know what to do the next time.
I took my 86 Carrera to Walmart's shop for years. Now I just do my own and save the$35.

EMBPilot

Absolutely positively, would not recommend anyone do this^^

Have you lost your mind Andy to post advice like this? To advise someone to bring a car that isn't even remotely like changing the oil on a daily driver to a "quick lube" shop to be worked on by the lowest common denominator?! ffs

Tom 328

I pay $575...relatively high it sounds like

Drisump

Was that advice supposed to be in green? After making the mistake of taking my 85 to a talented domestic type mechanic for an oil change.....ended up WAY overfilled. I would never take that car, never mind the 993, to anyone but someone who knows these cars well....even for an oil change. The fact is, an oil change in a 993 is APITA compared to all earlier 911's, knowledge of these cars is essential to install the proper level of oil. Cheers

pp000830

Love the idea or hate it, I did it for years without incident,
I do understand you trepidation as it will involve giving concise guidance to the technician the first time he does it. I also would not do it at a place you are not familiar with or the manager or technicians do not inspire confidence.

Maybe as the General in Pippen said, It is far smarter to be lucky than to be smart. Maybe my experience fell under the former rather than the latter.

Andy

PS I wonder who my dad took his VW Beetle to to have the oil changed back in the 60's, maybe dry sump oil systems were better known back then.

Ed Hughes

You lost me at Walmart. There has to be a bunch of other places more worthy of receiving one's money, than that useless retailer.

KNS

Old VW Beetles have a wet sump (I had a '68).

While overseeing the tech would probably be alright, do a quick search on "Jiffy Lube Horror stories". Grab a cup of coffee and settle in for a few hours of reading...

Todynot

Just paid $200 in NJ at Porsche specialist shop. They used 5w40 Motul.

bobboinski

Your dad probably had the kid at the local service station change his oil. Might have been me. That's how I earned the money to get started in this hobby. Wet sump. Drain, clean the screen and refill. More difficult than a spin on filter, but you learned something.

bcameron59

Jack her up, add jackstands, get underneath and bond with your car. I swear, your car will go faster, trust you better, and love you more...

Make sure to use a fine screen collander on the off chance that any metal bits come out with the oil: see Trophy's engine rebuild thread if in doubt.

2 filters, 1 crush washer, 10-12 litres of high zddp: such a small price to become one of "The Ones Who Kept The Machine Functioning Smoothly, the ones who poured the very best butter over the cams and mainsprings of the culture."

pp000830

Interesting idea. I wonder if most of the bits one might see are gouges from a diferential gear face as I understand good size steel chips can come loose from jackhammering the diff during driving events that involve the tires breaking loose from agressive driving. I wonder how common these chips are and if present at the drain plug are they really the basis of a decision to service the transmission or just the indication of the need to address their source at the next servicing for other reasons such as worn synchro rings.

Other's thoughts?

Andy

pp000830

Maybe I was lucky rather than smart??

pp000830

Maybe as the General in Pippen said, It is far smarter to be lucky than to be smart. Maybe my experience fell under the former rather than the latter.

NYC993

As much as I hate going to Walmart, I cound't find anybody else selling 15w50 in 5qrt jugs for 25bucks.

Ed Hughes

Who needs 5qt jugs?