993 RS Carpet Installation Guide
01-04-2009, 11:42 PM
#16
The center console piece was a real PITA. The supplied section from Apbiz did not correlate at all with this item. I basically used the removed carpet as a template and completed this section in two pieces. I folded the carpet back on itself at the midline seam and it looks great. Not sure if you can get away with doing this if you have the thicker "slivernit" carpeting. The second series of photos demonstrates how to make relief cuts and fit the front trim pieces.
01-05-2009, 12:33 AM
#18
Burning Brakes
Nice write-up, brings back memories (those that I didn't kill from the adhesive remover) when I did mine. I agree that the gap under the rear console is pretty big. Also advise not to trim the side of the tranny hump until you test fit the console, mine has a small gap.
Very nice looking, thanks for the write-up.
don
Very nice looking, thanks for the write-up.
don
01-05-2009, 12:56 AM
#19
Pro
Thanks Glen! Being a few months behind you on the slippery slope is turning out to be very benificial. First the DAS bar now a nice write up on the RS carpeting which I'm planning in the near future. Now if I can just get you to sell me those supercups...
If I remember correctly there are two places you can bolt the pedal to the car, I chose the holes closest to the pedal due to the Rennline track mat getting in the way. I would've preferred the other spot since it seemed to line up with the throttle stop better. Next I took the supplied linkage and kept slowly cutting it down until it "felt" right to my foot. Once finished, I found that the pedal no longer hit the black plastic stop. I drilled a few holes higher and remounted it. Not sure what I'll do when I install the aluminum piece from Rennline, I was thinking of making something. What did you do for throttle stop Glen?
01-05-2009, 01:19 AM
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Great Job. Been there done that. I did however get the respirator. I learned this from the first time I did this job. Its well worth the effort though. I changed my interior from tan to black. Love your cage by the way...
01-05-2009, 09:28 AM
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In terms of the carpet install, I would have left some extra carpet material around the hump/center console. I would have been a bit more careful cutting around the cage mounting points. I should have used a respirator.
Thanks... Mitch Piper did a great job. I'll be posting more details shortly.
Let's just say that with the cat bypass, supercups, Wevo engine mounts, solid tranny mounts, gutted sunroof, gutted doors, and carpet/sound deadening deleted... I would not drive without earplugs, and I have to be awfully carefull to keep the rpms below 3,000 if I'm anywhere near Mr. Policeman.
01-05-2009, 01:11 PM
#23
Nordschleife Master
That pile of carpet and foam in the first set of photos weighed 41 lbs.
The rear deck and rear quarter panels weighed 17.5 lbs
I'm not sure how much the stock door panels weigh, but I'd bet at least 30 lbs
I believe the RS carpet kit weighed less than 15 lbs.
So the net weight savings for a typical RS carpet and door panel install is likely around 70-80 lbs.
Individually, weight saving mods can be scoffed at; however, in the context of a more holistic approach... it all adds up. Other things that I've done: removed cat (24 lbs), removed stock muffs (38 lbs), replaced stock battery (35.5 lbs) with odyssey 925 (24 lbs), removed basket handle and stock spoiler mechanism (17.5 lbs), rear wiper assembly (4 lbs), rear seatbelts (??), stereo delete (?), deleted airbags (?), deleted stock steering wheel (?), deleted stock seats, removed lower dash portion, gutted doors and window mechanisms, removed headliner and gutted sunroof and welded sunroof back in place, removed visors, RS wiper reservoir, delete headlight nozzles and headlight wiper motor, delete trunk carpet, lightweight wheels, delete heater blower
So, approx 10 pound lost is one horsepower gained... am I on a level playing field with all you VRAM guys now
The rear deck and rear quarter panels weighed 17.5 lbs
I'm not sure how much the stock door panels weigh, but I'd bet at least 30 lbs
I believe the RS carpet kit weighed less than 15 lbs.
So the net weight savings for a typical RS carpet and door panel install is likely around 70-80 lbs.
Individually, weight saving mods can be scoffed at; however, in the context of a more holistic approach... it all adds up. Other things that I've done: removed cat (24 lbs), removed stock muffs (38 lbs), replaced stock battery (35.5 lbs) with odyssey 925 (24 lbs), removed basket handle and stock spoiler mechanism (17.5 lbs), rear wiper assembly (4 lbs), rear seatbelts (??), stereo delete (?), deleted airbags (?), deleted stock steering wheel (?), deleted stock seats, removed lower dash portion, gutted doors and window mechanisms, removed headliner and gutted sunroof and welded sunroof back in place, removed visors, RS wiper reservoir, delete headlight nozzles and headlight wiper motor, delete trunk carpet, lightweight wheels, delete heater blower
So, approx 10 pound lost is one horsepower gained... am I on a level playing field with all you VRAM guys now
I hear ya on the weight loss every bit helps. I bet it much more perky then stock.
The bad part of V-ram, you will have the HP, but not that midrange torque. The last part of the rev band, is pretty much the same on both my cars. I think with a chip, cat delete, and some other things, you are doing over the V-ram stock 282.
01-05-2009, 11:35 PM
#25
Pro
What was the decision point to go with the grey plush instead of the perlon felt or sliverknit? Would the thickness of the different carpets go in the order perlon -> plush -> sliverknit? Also, I don't see it in the pictures, can you see the patterns in the metal below the carpet with this kit? If this kit gives the same appearance (or close) as the sliverknit that costs twice as much it would be nice to spend that other 300 on RS door panels.
01-06-2009, 08:55 AM
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If you call Apbiz, the owner (forget his name, but very nice guy) will talk you through the options. I was going to go with perlon, but he talked me into the plush (glad I listened to him). Essentially, the Perlon is like a very thin felt. This is the stuff you see in a lot of the early model-year 911s. It is very hard to work with, tears easily, and dust/dirt just sits on top of it (no pile to trap the dirt/dust). The "plush" carpet is thinner and lighter than OEM. Has a more industrial appearance with shorter pile. The "slivernit" is similar to OEM carpeting with thicker pile. Without foam / sound deadening, all three are going to show some of the underlying metal contours. A lot will depend on how you do the installation. I've seen some guys meticulously press the carpeting into every ripple (most noticable on the rear hump with the horizontal ripples and along the forward edge of the rear seats). From my photos, you can see that I did not press the carpeting into every cranny in favor of a smoother finish.
01-06-2009, 03:44 PM
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. Guess you don't have that problem anymore, huh Stealth? 
Anyways, great writeup on the RS installation.
Has anyone done this retaining the stock insulation? Or gutting everything and putting some kind of thinner insulation underneath the RS carpet? Would the RS carpet fit on top of the insulation?
I am thinking of replacing the old isulation with some kind of thinner isolation material. It would make the weight loss a little less significant but better for the DD or at least make longer trips much more tolerable..
01-06-2009, 11:18 PM
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