Slightly OT: I hate car salesmen!
10-13-2008, 04:06 AM
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Slightly OT: I hate car salesmen!
Two bad car salesman experiences today:
1) My wife is looking at a new BMW 135i. So were at a Bay Area BMW dealership today and I spy a used M3 convertible on the lot. Since I haven't been able to track down a 993 that I want yet, I decided I'd take the M for a test drive. I drive the car (which to be honest didn't excite me that much), and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
2) On our way back from the BMW dealership, we drive past a Porsche dealership and I spot a 993 for sale on the lot. I stopped in to check it out and it's not exactly the cleanest example I've seen around. It's a '96 cab, completely stock and they want $44K for it?? Oh, they've just dropped the price to a more reasonable $40K. OK, it's only got 28K miles on it, but it's pretty dirty inside, and smells like gasoline in the cabin! The sales guy knows next to nothing about the car except to say 'it's a classic, very hard to come by' and asks me about 10 times if I'm interested in buying it. I took his card and said I'd let him know. Yeah, right.
I hate car salesmen.
1) My wife is looking at a new BMW 135i. So were at a Bay Area BMW dealership today and I spy a used M3 convertible on the lot. Since I haven't been able to track down a 993 that I want yet, I decided I'd take the M for a test drive. I drive the car (which to be honest didn't excite me that much), and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
2) On our way back from the BMW dealership, we drive past a Porsche dealership and I spot a 993 for sale on the lot. I stopped in to check it out and it's not exactly the cleanest example I've seen around. It's a '96 cab, completely stock and they want $44K for it?? Oh, they've just dropped the price to a more reasonable $40K. OK, it's only got 28K miles on it, but it's pretty dirty inside, and smells like gasoline in the cabin! The sales guy knows next to nothing about the car except to say 'it's a classic, very hard to come by' and asks me about 10 times if I'm interested in buying it. I took his card and said I'd let him know. Yeah, right.
I hate car salesmen.
10-13-2008, 01:16 PM
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Two bad car salesman experiences today:
1) My wife is looking at a new BMW 135i. So were at a Bay Area BMW dealership today and I spy a used M3 convertible on the lot. Since I haven't been able to track down a 993 that I want yet, I decided I'd take the M for a test drive. I drive the car (which to be honest didn't excite me that much), and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
2) On our way back from the BMW dealership, we drive past a Porsche dealership and I spot a 993 for sale on the lot. I stopped in to check it out and it's not exactly the cleanest example I've seen around. It's a '96 cab, completely stock and they want $44K for it?? Oh, they've just dropped the price to a more reasonable $40K. OK, it's only got 28K miles on it, but it's pretty dirty inside, and smells like gasoline in the cabin! The sales guy knows next to nothing about the car except to say 'it's a classic, very hard to come by' and asks me about 10 times if I'm interested in buying it. I took his card and said I'd let him know. Yeah, right.
I hate car salesmen.
1) My wife is looking at a new BMW 135i. So were at a Bay Area BMW dealership today and I spy a used M3 convertible on the lot. Since I haven't been able to track down a 993 that I want yet, I decided I'd take the M for a test drive. I drive the car (which to be honest didn't excite me that much), and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
2) On our way back from the BMW dealership, we drive past a Porsche dealership and I spot a 993 for sale on the lot. I stopped in to check it out and it's not exactly the cleanest example I've seen around. It's a '96 cab, completely stock and they want $44K for it?? Oh, they've just dropped the price to a more reasonable $40K. OK, it's only got 28K miles on it, but it's pretty dirty inside, and smells like gasoline in the cabin! The sales guy knows next to nothing about the car except to say 'it's a classic, very hard to come by' and asks me about 10 times if I'm interested in buying it. I took his card and said I'd let him know. Yeah, right.
I hate car salesmen.
I would have said, "Give me back the car keys, and I'll show you my impolite side . . . "
10-13-2008, 01:42 PM
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10-13-2008, 01:47 PM
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Two bad car salesman experiences today:
...and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
...and upon returning to the dealership the sales guy says 'I don't wan't to offend you, but perhaps you should consider a regular 3-series since you don't drive aggressively enough for an M'. Huh? I'm driving someone else's car with the sales guy breathing down my neck from the back seat, and he doesn't think I'm worthy because I'm not bouncing off the rev limiter on every shift? Pi$$ed me off.
10-13-2008, 02:04 PM
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My ex is thinking of working for a firm that does high-end vending machines, stuffed with things like iPods, Blackberries etc. The idea behind this is people no longer want to deal with moronic salespeople now that it's clear that customer service truly is dead.
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Well, technically from a marketing standpoint, retail customer service has become polarized: Walmart or Tiffany. Your choice. The middle, including small town owner-operated hardware stores and bakeries, etc. has been obliterated.
10-13-2008, 04:09 PM
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This is why for my next new car I will just e-mail an RFQ to the internet sales depts of 3 dealers. I'll list all of the desired specs, wait for their reply and pick the best price.
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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My last few car purchases have been through RUF Dallas. GREAT customer service there. They even handled the purchase of my daily driver recently. I just ran it all through them. These guys are top notch.
10-13-2008, 04:40 PM
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I think you guys should organize a "group drive" of the M. Meet up at a local diner and then take turns showing up and having some fun iwht the M and the salesman's head. Re-group at the diner and then have a blast telling war stories. 1st one that get's the salesman to puke gets a free lunch.
10-13-2008, 04:48 PM
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I think you guys should organize a "group drive" of the M. Meet up at a local diner and then take turns showing up and having some fun iwht the M and the salesman's head. Re-group at the diner and then have a blast telling war stories. 1st one that get's the salesman to puke gets a free lunch.
Love it!
10-13-2008, 04:49 PM
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I tried this earlier this year at the other end of the spectrum (a few GM dealers, wanted to upgrade the family truck/SUV device), got nothing but a run around and spam for weeks.
I was ready to buy AND wanted to buy off of the lot.
I got the impression they did not take someone who was "shopping" via email and internet seriously. Understandable in some ways, but they will soon learn that the generation right behind me will change the traditional new car buying "rules".