Slightly OT: I hate car salesmen!
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I bought my Explorer from Joe Kerley on Stephens Creek back in 1999. By no means BMW but at 150k on the clock, its been a great vehicle---soon to be sold. I think my stereo and new tires are probably worth just as much as the what I can get for the car!!
#33
+1 Even before I turned the page on this thread, I knew it was them.
Also, I would avoid a BMW. My E36 with 46,000 miles (at the time) needed a new catalytic converter to the tune of $2,500. The part was 2,000+. A catalytic converter replacement at 46,000 miles?
I used to really like Allison BMW in Mountain View until they were purchased by a public company (AutoNation) and went corporate. Peter Pan in San Mateo is much better.
The Internet Manager at Allison supposedly moved from Allison to Stevens Creek. I really liked him. He was very good. His name is/was Lonnie Phillips.
Also, I would avoid a BMW. My E36 with 46,000 miles (at the time) needed a new catalytic converter to the tune of $2,500. The part was 2,000+. A catalytic converter replacement at 46,000 miles?
I used to really like Allison BMW in Mountain View until they were purchased by a public company (AutoNation) and went corporate. Peter Pan in San Mateo is much better.
The Internet Manager at Allison supposedly moved from Allison to Stevens Creek. I really liked him. He was very good. His name is/was Lonnie Phillips.
#34
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I've had lots and lots of cars, 3 Porches (currently a 996), 11 or 12 (lost count) BMWs, some Chevys, Jag, mini, etc. Seen some good and some horrendous salesmen.
My last purchase, I went to two different BMW dealers to drive a 335 and 328 (neither had both in stock with manuals). Both salesmen were knowledgable and professional, no pressure. I configured what I wanted and called them both (plus a third dealer) for their best price; no haggling. Took the best price and ordered the car.
BMWs are great cars, but I think they have a high lemon percentage. It seems like you either get a car with little to no problems or something that's always in the shop. I've had both kinds, but lately they've been pretty good to me. As they age though, they can get quite troublesome.
Porsches (911) seem to hold up a bit better. Which they need to, since the parts are so damn expensive.
But I've never been insulted by a salesman like the OP. That's inexcusable.
Michael
My last purchase, I went to two different BMW dealers to drive a 335 and 328 (neither had both in stock with manuals). Both salesmen were knowledgable and professional, no pressure. I configured what I wanted and called them both (plus a third dealer) for their best price; no haggling. Took the best price and ordered the car.
BMWs are great cars, but I think they have a high lemon percentage. It seems like you either get a car with little to no problems or something that's always in the shop. I've had both kinds, but lately they've been pretty good to me. As they age though, they can get quite troublesome.
Porsches (911) seem to hold up a bit better. Which they need to, since the parts are so damn expensive.
But I've never been insulted by a salesman like the OP. That's inexcusable.
Michael
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BMWs are great cars, but I think they have a high lemon percentage. It seems like you either get a car with little to no problems or something that's always in the shop. I've had both kinds, but lately they've been pretty good to me. As they age though, they can get quite troublesome.
But I've never been insulted by a salesman like the OP. That's inexcusable.
Michael
BMWs are great cars, but I think they have a high lemon percentage. It seems like you either get a car with little to no problems or something that's always in the shop. I've had both kinds, but lately they've been pretty good to me. As they age though, they can get quite troublesome.
But I've never been insulted by a salesman like the OP. That's inexcusable.
Michael
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