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henrymug 04-09-2008 02:45 AM

Baby car seat for rear seats of 993
 
any suggestions for the topic?

I heard that the Britax aroundabout can fit, it that true?

any photos?

I do not prefer the DIY suggestions as reported which is too complicated for me.

thanks.

Reuben 04-09-2008 08:51 AM

Britax is indeed the way to go (no affiliation etc.). In addition, I purchased two tightening clamps (at Babies 'R' Us) to ensure that the seats are tight and snug.

murfysflaw 04-09-2008 10:53 AM

Henry... is it a coupe or a cab? If it's a cab, that big center hump makes it more difficult. I decided not to try and wait until they can get in a booster. My oldest can so he can ride in the back now, but my youngest is still supposed to be strapped into one of those... so she cannot. There are a few threads with recommendations as well...

henrymug 04-09-2008 11:04 AM

thanks for the help!!!

Reuben, do you have photos of the tightening clamps? what is it? extra holding is a plus for sure.

Murfysflaw, mine is a 993 C4 of 1994 coupe of hongkong, and my son is only 5mth old. definitely need a baby seat.

And preferably, rear facing installation.

there is no Britax USA distributor in hk, but luckily, I have found a used one who has imported the model from aboard.

murfysflaw 04-09-2008 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by henrymug (Post 5295801)
thanks for the help!!!

Reuben, do you have photos of the tightening clamps? what is it? extra holding is a plus for sure.

Murfysflaw, mine is a 993 C4 of 1994 coupe of hongkong, and my son is only 5mth old. definitely need a baby seat.

And preferably, rear facing installation.

there is no Britax USA distributor in hk, but luckily, I have found a used one who has imported the model from aboard.

Cool. I suspect it'll be easier in a coupe.

911C2 04-09-2008 01:55 PM

I purchased a car seat that fits (radian 65 amazing steel construction), width height depth but I have a peoblem securing it. I have a clamp, the little H thing I use in another car, my issue though is the fact that the seatbelt buckle pivots and so even after the seat is in place, seatbelt tight, H thing in place to not allos the seatbelt to slide int eh buckle, I can still pull the bottom of the car seat forward 6 or so inches .

How did you solve that?

993USMC 04-09-2008 02:07 PM

I would like some more info on the seat pictured... What model Britax is that? Is the base removed?
I have a seven month old and a seven year old. The 993 is a great family car!

Thanks,
Doug



Originally Posted by Reuben (Post 5295526)
Britax is indeed the way to go (no affiliation etc.). In addition, I purchased two tightening clamps (at Babies 'R' Us) to ensure that the seats are tight and snug.


dcdude 04-09-2008 02:55 PM

Britax did some OEM work for Fisher-Price a while back. Now it's all on close-out sale, if you can find it. I bought one of these "convertibles" for smaller kids. Love it, made in USA. Haven't tried it in the 993 yet:

http://www.albeebaby.com/fiprsavodeco1.html

I use this one in the Corolla, but I bought it becuase it's supposed to fit 993. Seem less bulky than my Britax/FP. It's OK, but not Britax quality, plus I hate WalMart:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8054497

For bigger kids, the F-P booster is said to be the same as the discontinued yet desireable Britax Star Riser, which I think is the same as one of the Porsche seats, which I'm told does fit 993. I bought TWO of them at $40; now they're almost free, and cross country shipping was only $5!:

http://www.albeebaby.com/fisher-pric...-tan-tech.html

RallyJon 04-09-2008 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by 911C2 (Post 5296302)
so even after the seat is in place, seatbelt tight, H thing in place to not allos the seatbelt to slide int eh buckle, I can still pull the bottom of the car seat forward 6 or so inches .

How did you solve that?

By modifying the seat, or fabricating a subframe that moves the mounting points down and to the rear. Neither option being the sort of thing you can recommend to others on a public forum.

You're right though. Given the location of the seatbelt hardpoints, there isn't a car seat around that will mount truly securely. Not even Porsche could figure it out, which is why they used that horrible 1970s design for the Porsche Prince.

Only you can weigh the safety unknowns of using uncertified hardware vs. the certified but known to be loose seatbelt method.

Smindustries 04-09-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by dcdude68 (Post 5296472)
For bigger kids, the F-P booster is said to be the same as the discontinued yet desireable Britax Star Riser, which I think is the same as one of the Porsche seats, which I'm told does fit 993. I bought TWO of them at $40; now they're almost free, and cross country shipping was only $5!:

http://www.albeebaby.com/fisher-pric...-tan-tech.html

I have a Recaro Vivo and my problem is that the left rear seatbelt is not long enough to go around my son and latch. Are the rear belts abnormally short?

In the interest of full disclosure, I only tried to fit him into it once, when I got the vehicle in October. I haven't tried since and cannot try this evening, as the car has been at the body shop since the day after I tried to fit the seat.

JPS 04-09-2008 04:03 PM

Something to factor in, as I've been trying to figure this out both for the 993 and for my Manhattan beater, a Celica. Both are convertibles.

A) The cabriolet 993 is narrower than the coupe, and the belts are reversed, making things even more tough than the already tough coupe.
B) You have to measure your own level of risk you are comfy with. Risk is introduced if the seats are not secured as per the child seat manufacturer's specs.
C) AND THIS IS A DOOZY...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your own research on relatively new findings on how long infants and toddlers should remain rearward facing. Check out www.thecarseatlady.com and www.carseatdata.org. The net net of the research is that the "20 lbs AND one year" to go forward facing is only the legal minimum. ALL child seat manufacturers and child auto safety advocates are recommending, nearly demanding, that you keep the child rearward facing until the max of the seat. In other words, many of the convertible seats will have specs something like "Rear facing 35 inches tall OR 35 pounds; forward facing 42 inches tall and 60 pounds" (these numbers are made up). They therefore recommend strongly that you keep the child rearward facing until EITHER s/he is taller than 35 inches OR weighs more than 35 lbs. Then you go forward facing until EITHER 42 inches OR 60 pounds, THEN you go to a booster.

This recommendation is due to studies showing that due to the large mass of a small child's head relative to the impact dynamics, children are something like 4x more likely to suffer traumatic neck injuries when forward facing (makes sense...they are in a 5 point, strapped in like for a DE, but they have a big ol' noggin and no helmet or HANS).

I have yet to see any seat in the 993 that is even remotely close to fitting rearward facing. I'm not making any judgements on anyone putting forward facing in place, as long as it is with this knowledge in hand. Just don't make the choice because of the common "wisdom" of 20 lbs and one year.

Does that mean I'm going to wait until my kid is practically a teenager to put him in the 993? No. I will someday find a seat that fits in my cab, and probably go forward facing on the random days we take the 911 out for a family trip. But I will probably wait longer than my current 32 inch / 22 lb little guy, unfortunately.

Prob more info than you wanted, didn't mean to sound soap boxish if I did, but I implore you to please look at the new info available and make your own decision.

Just my $.02 FWIW.

993USMC 04-09-2008 04:37 PM

Chuck,
Would you be willing to test fit this seat in your 993? I'm very interested in purchasing a seat.

Thanks,
Doug



Originally Posted by dcdude68 (Post 5296472)
Britax did some OEM work for Fisher-Price a while back. Now it's all on close-out sale, if you can find it. I bought one of these "convertibles" for smaller kids. Love it, made in USA. Haven't tried it in the 993 yet:

http://www.albeebaby.com/fiprsavodeco1.html


guiness 04-09-2008 05:07 PM

I fit the Britax Parkway booster in the rear of my cab and can have two at a time without issue. That is a booster and is not for smaller kids. I have been using those since my two eldest were 3 and 5.

midcont 04-09-2008 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by JPS (Post 5296680)
They therefore recommend strongly that you keep the child rearward facing until EITHER s/he is taller than 35 inches OR weighs more than 35 lbs. Then you go forward facing until EITHER 42 inches OR 60 pounds, THEN you go to a booster.

Yeah but where will a 3' tall kids legs go if the seat is rearward facing?

murfysflaw 04-09-2008 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 993USMC (Post 5296816)
Chuck,
Would you be willing to test fit this seat in your 993? I'm very interested in purchasing a seat.

Thanks,
Doug

That's the one I have from FP. It fits better than any others I've seen when adjusted to it's narrowest setting, but in a cab it is still a bit wobbly. Just doesn't go all the way in like I'd like. In a coupe I bet it'd be perfect.


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