pu911rsr

I have a 993 lined up for purchase, it is a low 80K mile car that has been well maintianed and is unmolested. I have checked the basic stuff like car fax etc. Had my brother drive car (reasonably local to him). His only comments were idle hunted around when car was cold and also had a very brief puff of smoke on cold start up. I will have a PPI done before going any further, are those two 2 issues show stoppers. Also car is in good but not perfect condition what do you 993 folks think market price on a car like this would be.
Thanks,
Phil

Marlon

23K depending on options. ($2K + or - depending on intangibles) Be sure to have a Porsche dealer or independent repair facility look at it though before you buy - if at all possible.

AOW162435

I agree with Marlon. A good friend just picked up a very clean 75,000 mile '97 for $27,500.

Andreas

MarkD

Phil,

The 2 issues alone don't mean trouble but I'd want to get answers before purchase.
If if hunts for the first 20 seconds or so when cold starting, not a big deal.

Why the smoke on cold start? Is it oil? Fuel? Overfilled with oil?
PPI should get answers.
Good luck with the search

jimq

smoke on startup that goes away in a couple of seconds is fairly common on 911's

Mark in Baltimore

$23,000?? That sounds right if it had $125,000 miles. I'm thinking mid-$20k's with an upper ceiling of $29K depending on options.

Rudolph

Two months ago I helped a friend buy a '95 w/ 81k for $23k. That car had a great PPI and came with new tires and a recent tuneup. Your PPI may easily explain the issues with your car.

pu911rsr

Guys Thanks for the answers, now I'll have have to do is set up an PPI.
Phil

Derek_C

24-27k depending on condition

jdistefa

Based on recent pricing data collected here, $27 is going to be average for a car of this year & mileage. However with the softening of the US economy, winter season, and ? motivation of the seller - and pending any problems - you could get it for lower. IMO, $23k would be unlikely, unless you have a desperate seller or car with stories.....

pu911rsr

Nice piece of linear regression, price highly correlated to mileage. Next question - what are some of effective methods of hot rodding one of these - this one is bone stock.
Phil

TheOtherEric

Sadly there really aren't any that are all that. You can chip a '95 but who knows how much you really gain. Headers are already great. Cats and muffs don't get you much/anything either. So we do things like suspension and lightweight flywheel to make it feel more sporty. Else you can supercharge or turbocharge it, but it'll run you north of $10k for 100hp.

pu911rsr

What the correct suspension upgrades for mainly road use. Can these be lowered w/stock suspension.
Phil

jdistefa

You can do a search, but the basics are:

1) M030 or H&R springs with Bilstein HD shocks (extra threads)

2) or... PSS9 or JIC coilovers

3) Upgrade sway bars a) M030 front & turbo rear, or b) RS or TRG adjustables

4) Align to RS specs

5) Lower to RS height, or RS +5mm (>5mm lower than RS height gets into bump steer territory which would then require EVO uprights, plus it's too low for road use)

RallyJon

Yes, but if you look at the clusters of data points, there's more to think about.

Consider just the 60-80k range. You can see there are really two distinct groups: There are the "Craigslist" cars, poorly maintained perhaps and sold by non-enthusiast owners which are $26-29k. Then there are the cars between $30-35k, the ones with no bodywork, full maintenance records, recent brakes and tires and shocks, and owners who know what they have and take care of it.

For 993s, mileage is the #1 determining factor for price, but there's a bit more to it than that.

Of course every thread like this has people posting exceptions. There are lucky people who find and snap up great deals that are real outliers. And there are also people who pay $40k+ for perfect cars from specialist dealers, but they tend not to mention price so much.