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Old 01-07-2008, 11:03 PM
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Well, my new car is a 993 and I just love throwing it around the track. Sure not the fastest but I keep up with and pass a lot of cars that should be much faster. I work on my skills and I really enjoy all the questions after a good session about what I have in the motor etc... They hate my stock engine answer... Suspension is even just a tweaked PSS9 setup.

I have since moved up to Club sports but we all have to grow
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:37 AM
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Why not consider an Elise or Exige if you're looking for a momentum car?
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:39 AM
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I'm not looking for a momentum car - I'm looking for the opposite The performance of my 997S or a 997 GT3 but in a more classic design like the 993.

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Why not consider an Elise or Exige if you're looking for a momentum car?
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:56 AM
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Again, get a torsion-bar 911 with a 3.6.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT View Post
I'm not looking for a momentum car - I'm looking for the opposite The performance of my 997S or a 997 GT3 but in a more classic design like the 993.

Even Porsche couldn't do that.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Noah View Post
Again, get a torsion-bar 911 with a 3.6.
Or a 993 RSR
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by texas911 View Post
Even Porsche couldn't do that.
Well, maybe what I'm seeking doesn't exist. I see a couple of guys out there with 964 and 965 based race cars that do sub minute laps at LRP and sub 2 minute laps at WGI. But maybe the idea of a 993 street / DE car, even in the hands of pro drivers, doesn't really exist. I thought perhaps something like a 993T with some upgrades (lightening, RS engine tweaks, suspension upgrade) might do the trick.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT View Post
I thought perhaps something like a 993T with some upgrades (lightening, RS engine tweaks, suspension upgrade) might do the trick.
Sounds like you should look at Andy's car.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380783
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT View Post
Hello,

I'm seriously considering one of the following directions and would appreciate any input you might have to offer:

1. A 964 variant - C2, RSA, Turbo modified...

2. 993 platform taken to another level. I can't see a turbo because I do not want AWD. I like the idea of taking a base 993 and heading toward RS territory. Not a clone project, but to make the ultimate street / DE machine that will be comfortable and potent. I'd lighten it as much as possible and don't mind losing things like sound insulation. But I'll want AC (pollen / dust filter a huge plus for me), a dash and carpeting, etc. I'm shying away from a C2S - more $ for a wider rear track and additional drag - so a C2 might be the best starting point?

Performance wise, I enjoy the power and torque of the 997S. When I want power, it's there. I've never had a momentum car and really don't want to start in that direction. The M3 and 997S had plenty of power - I'm not interested in more.
Both 964 and 993 make great base platforms, I prefer 993 because the wheel wheels are more accomodating, brake updgrades are a bolt on, front end geometry is more favorable to sport use, 6speed trans, the oem lsd was a better one and I like the looks.

W/ roll bar, big brakes, 2nd oil cooler, AC, full tank spare and tools mine still breaks 2800# and is quite liveable on the street.

993 will likely be more expensive to set up right depending on what mods you want.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:39 AM
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Im not sure how someone can tell you how it will "feel" in a different car......
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonVW View Post
Im not sure how someone can tell you how it will "feel" in a different car......
Well, somebody here at 993 that also has a 997 could suggest the differences. Does the 993 "feel" twitchy at track speed, is it solid, does the rear end tend to come out under normal to hard acceleration, is it planted with soft and wide rubber, do the senses suggest "rock solid" or do they suggest "uh-oh" when at speed, etc. My disadvantage is not having access to a 993 and a track where I can compare my experience with my 997S to a 993 platform.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RonCT View Post
Well, somebody here at 993 that also has a 997 could suggest the differences. Does the 993 "feel" twitchy at track speed, is it solid, does the rear end tend to come out under normal to hard acceleration, is it planted with soft and wide rubber, do the senses suggest "rock solid" or do they suggest "uh-oh" when at speed, etc. My disadvantage is not having access to a 993 and a track where I can compare my experience with my 997S to a 993 platform.
Set up right a 993 will be rock solid.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:53 PM
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My car was set up my Kerry Bonner and it has felt rock solid since the day I bought it. Its soft but very easy to handle. I love it but I just could not leave well enough alone. I just put on the club sports and will learn this new suspension starting this year. I love the way this car handles even more than my old RSA. Not that its faster overall but in my hands, I am faster in this car. It makes me feel more confident and that makes for a more fun weekend. I also outrun my friends in it and they have a couple of RSAs and there are a few GT3 cars as well. Work on that seat time and suprise yourself...
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:42 AM
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For me the most enjoyable driving experience I pick the 964 RS. I would recomend taking a RS America and clone it to an RS. If you drove a 964 RS you would be hooked. Everyone that drives it loves it. It feels light, nimble with plenty of power. A well set up 964 will give any GT3 a run for the money on the track. No subsitute for light weight.

The 993 RS is also a wonderfull car. But not as raw as the 964. But well worth the $$ spent in the long run. A well set up 993 will hold it's own to a GT3. Stock....I love my cup car on the track and it is faster than I am.

I would recomend getting a RS America. Modify it and enjoy it. At the end of the day it will still be worth what you put into it and you will love it....

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Old 01-09-2008, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by texas911 View Post
Even Porsche couldn't do that.
+1.....


at least not in the U.S... you are basically describing a 993 RS
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